joom Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I had dogs when I was kid, red setters. Red setters are officially ?bonkers? You?ll be in good company with this breed, but stubborn breeds are hard work. I had a Bull Terrier once and a rescue Doberman (I never intended on either breed, but they came to me and I loved them). The BT was the most stubborn dog i?ve ever known, she was also incredibly loveable in her nature, outweighing the frustration 10-1, whereas the Doberman was my biggest suprise. He was a huge animal and in the more unusal Isabella and tan colour. But his nature was something to behold, as I was often sure there was a person trapped in a dogs body, such was the intelligence of that dog. He basically trained me and assisted with the Bull Terrier much of the time. I still wonder at his ?just show me once? learning ability. I miss both beasts. Enjoy whatever you choose, i?d love to have another dog, just not feasible right now.