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ern ill, but not for long ;-)

JetSetWilly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > il est dans ern ill. pah. Village front

We may well be outside the 57 dBA contour, as Hoon states, but that refers to an *average* annoyance. We have planes arriving from 4.30am, and at that time there is little other noise going on and the perceived noise is consequently much higher than average (big jump from the low background level, plus your ears have become accustomed to little noise during the night so a given noise will seem much louder than otherwise). It's easily enough to wake you up. And while 3-6,000 altitude is given, the times I have monitored aircraft coming in on the web it's often 3-4.5,000 rather than in the upper range. I don't think I'll be setting much store by the current government's "indicative plans". Planes will have to fly over somewhere, and more planes is more planes. It's not as if we were dealing with a stack position (where the traffic would no longer exist because the need for the stack would in principle vanish).

And nobody has mentioned Le V?lodrome. Pourquoi pas?

It's 2am and I just spotted one on the wall and killed it. Have had an infestation here. Not nice.

Tonight's sunset was splendiferous. We have had several good ones in the last couple of weeks too. I love looking over to the west and seeing the Rosendale allotments and a lovely sunset.

'Properly'? Do you mean going through every possible page on the site? I took a sample of twelve pages on the site, and have yet to come across the text you mention (and I'm not a technophobe: I develop websites for large multinational organisations). My view was also influenced by reports of people who have been to - one - of your events, and I had also read an informal report in a 2008 edition of London Cyclist magazine of one of your outings. It's really up to the club what public impression it gives, not me.

We have a fab display of daffs on the corner of Friern Rd and LL, as always. It's truly lovely, with the pillar box at the front and the Village-style white post-and-chain encircling and the tree in the middle. As far as I can see, no picking whatsoever.

No doubt it does. But the club's own website - I've just checked - says it's 'main interests are training and racing' while the chairman's review of the year is full of pictures of young men in 'club kit' (and no others at all). Primary menu categories include 'reports and results' (of rances etc.) and 'entry forms' (for races?). Ordinary cyclists can find all this a little off-putting. Perhaps time to change that public face if it no longer fairly reflects current activities?

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hear Hear Ann! I bought some daffs out of an M&S > Simply Food in Greenwich few weeks ago for 99p Ah yes, those'll be the ones being carried over on planes from which country....?

Minitoots Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > On Feb 18th we visited the EDT and had a meal (I > had falafel and pitta bread and 2 glasses of white > wine)and later that night I collapsed (out cold > for over 5 minutes, twice!) and was violently ill > and ended being rushed to hospital and up on a > drip for most of the night at Kings. The doctor > was unable to confirm whether it was actually food > poisoning (and if so,from what)or a severe stomach > bug. I'd also eaten oysters at another Lordship > Lane restaurant 2 days before and we'd assumed I'd > got it from that, as it CAN take up to 48 hrs for > symptoms to appear. My partner was ok but had > different food.. I'd be very interested to hear if > anyone else has had similar experiences either at > the EDT or from eating oysters anywhere in SE22. > I've eaten at the EDT before and it has been fine > but this is a strange coincidence... Minitoots I had some not as severe symptoms from Monday morning, all day: repeated feeling that I was being literally dragged into unconciousness, feeling that all 'systems' through the floor, waves and waves of nausea. Any worse/longer and I would have dialed the medics. Felt on the mend by late evening, but still not back to normal. But we'd just come back from up north (ate a pub lunch in Bakewell on Sunday) and nowhere near EDT. I thought it was maybe some kind of winter virus.

http://www.southwarkcyclists.org.uk/social.shtml#now Around 8-10 events per month, including Saturdays and Sundays. They also help organise Dunwich Dynamo, a rather crazy overnight event http://www.southwarkcyclists.org.uk/social/dunwichfaqs08.shtml Then there's Greenwich and Lewisham Dulwich Paragons are not people I would ride with. Too much into uniforms and racing. I prefer to tour, stop at the pub and wear what I want.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This is just a little message to anyone out there > stupid enough to think that these wonderful > flowers are purely meant for your soul enjoyment > only, well THEY ARE NOT! I have walked across GG > twice this week and seen some ignorant buggers > walking up and down picking flowers with their > kids, I ignored it at first but when I saw someone > doing on the Rye this morning that was the final > straw. They told me to mind my own so I got my > phone out and got hold of the Southwark Park > Wardens people and reported the incident. Please > leave the daff's alone! > > Louisa. So you are getting hot under the collar about a few daffs, but care past caring about global warming/climate change/peak oil/the end of civilisation as we know it? http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,247728 Glad to see you've got your priorities sorted out.

The bumble bees have been out over the last couple of weeks (yesterday too, but not today). They seem very fond of a plant I have next to the front steps, and have been nosing around it in search of flowers. The plant is a perennial (weed), that I have failed to date to ID. Grows a bit like a foxglove (leaf-wise), has a consistent cream-coloured flower, grows back again and again. I don't get rid of it as the bumbles love it so much, although it's hemming out my lavender and japonica.

Check out Southwark Cyclists (affiliated to LCC) website. Very active group. They have trips every week and sometimes several. Other local LCC groups (e.g. Lewisham and Greenwich) also do stuff and have websites.

Oh, the fat pigeons. I wonder whether the pigeons and squirrels (and magpies) kind of dominate the terrain and discourage the others. A starling has now arrived and perched at the very top of the robinia, looking a little wobbly as the tiny branches sway. (My office is about a third of the way up from the base of the tree, so a good view of the middle and upper section.)

My local jay as been here all winter, often perching briefly in the upper branches of the robinia in the back garden. It never hangs around for long though, and I've yet to see a mate.

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's all summer time. LL shots date from 27 June. I'd say around 3.30-4.30 in the afternoon.

Freddy1929 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have read in several papers over the last months > about a new Govenment data base of children's > details (I think this is came out of the Victoria > Clumbie enquiry) called Contact point. Can we > trust this Government with data? especially > children's.... What are they going to keep on it? > How is the information going to be collected? Who > will have access? > I'm sure some of you out there have an > opinion............................. It's a matter of fact, not opinion. From the ARCH website: The Children Act 2004 empowered the Secretary of State for Education to create a database (or databases) of everyone in England who is aged under 18. In July 2007, the regulations that will bring this first national database of children into being were passed by Parliament. The government has announced that the database will be called ContactPoint. It was originally known as the Information-Sharing Index, but re-branded in February 2007 because of negative publicity about information sharing. ContactPoint is effectively a file-front that serves the whole range of agencies that may be involved with a child. It is intended to provide a complete directory of all children from birth, together with a list of the agencies with which s/he is in contact. It won?t hold any case records, but will enable practitioners to indicate their involvement with a family and contact each other in order to share information. It will also show whether an eCAF (an in-depth personal profile under the Common Assessment Framework) has been carried out and is available for sharing. The regulations can be seen on the Office of Public Sector Information website {hyperlink: http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2007/20072182.htm ] Schedule 1 specifies the data that will be collected on each child Schedule 2 lists the children?s charities that can grant access Schedule 3 lists the categories of people who are allowed access All children will be included in the database, but the records of some children will be ?shielded? if it is thought necessary. Information that a ?sensitive? service ? sexual health, substance misuse and mental health ? is being provided will only be included on ContactPoint with consent. The government estimates that ContactPoint will cost ?224m to establish and ?41m per year to run. The contract has been awarded to CapGemini, and it is expected that ContactPoint will be operational at some point from early 2009. http://www.arch-ed.org/issues/databases/contactpoint.htm (Note that 'shielded' children will be those of politicans, the rich and famous.) See also 3 videoas on YouTube: etc. If you are concerned about this issue, or the wider 'data on children' issues http://www.arch-ed.org/issues/databases/childrens_databases.htm please consider supporting the work of Action on Rights for Children.

snorky Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Amelie Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > The schools (Dulwich College, Alleyn's, James > > Allen's and St Olave's) are not major > landowners. > > The Edward Alleyn Foundation is the landowner. > > > > I apologise for my spelling error, the result of > a > > long day and sore eyes. > > > > The schools exist primarily for the benefit of > > their pupils, if they choose to make their > > facilities available to non-pupils they should > do > > so voluntarily not because they have been > either > > forced or subjected to threats. They should do so because they currently are entitled to charitable status, which enables them to make all kinds of financial gains from "the community". Charities are expected to work for public benefit, not for the benefit of a few self-selecting rich people.

I for one was taken by something that CoD said on a thread yesterday: "We are scared of violent crime - we want to be safe and not caught up in gang warfare - we want Jacqui Smith do actually live in her main residence in Nunhead and pull her finger out. And we are sorry that a man was murdered. And we don't want anymore." I've often wondered what exactly 'local' MPs do for this area (as opposed to doing things for the Olympics, or doing stuff to keep their party in power). I'm aware some things are done (e.g. TJ's work re ED hospital). But I don't see much real 'working for SE London' from that quarter, in the sense of some of the major issues that affect SE London. I'm aware of projects like Camila Batmanghelidjh's in Camberwell. And I'm aware - child of immigrants, raised on commercial premises surrounded by old people - that young people's aspirations and course in life are majorly affected by who they are influenced by, who is around them, what people say to them. I'm personally very aware that lots of kids in SE London never travel beyond their own neighbourhoods in SE London. That is their very limited horizon. (And that needs tackling.) And also aware that the major banks etc. around Canary Wharf and the City who run mentoring schemes are generally drawing in on their outreach and mentoring programmes in the current recession. So I'm wondering what we, as a community, and as individuals, can do to help. What schemes people know about. What gaps people think there are, that we could maybe help to do something about. Each person can do something that is only small, but all together it can add up. I don't pretend that we can solve any of this. But I do believe that if enough people try to do enough things in the right direction, we can change some young lives for the better. And that can change the course of future events. It is the responsibility of a community to work with their community. I write as someone who chaired an NGO from launch, so has some experience of doing things with volunteers etc., but I don't pretend to know how to go about any of this. I'm just casting about for ideas, that's all.

Where would we be without almost daily updates of Jacqui's armed police detail? Or HRH Harman's latest movements? I tell you, all human - and national - life is here.

I was a way for at least a year, and now I'm back. People come and go. The worst thing that can happen to a forum is that it dies (often because a lot of poeple leave owing to trolls that admin don't deal with). But soome do reach the end of their natural... That's not the case here. At the mo', EDF is lively. There are incomers, and they talk. Things are liable to change; to not stay the same. So be it. It's finding that right balance that is the issue. I may not have seen the personal posts you refer to, as I'm only dipping back after an absence. Perception of unfairness may depend on perspective. On any forum it's generally up to each individual to stand up for themselves. People who are out-and-out agressive need - first - reminding; and then dealing with. I think that is fairly well taken of here (much more so than on other forums I belong to.) People who are attacked should - I think - be supported by others (either on-forum or by PM), just so that they don't feel they're alone. Does that happen enough here?

Short menus are fine. Don't be afraid to put things on the menu i.e. don't just cater for lowest common denominator. Be adventurous in *something* (just one thing) on the menu. That will ensure that people will travel a little way/go out of their way to taste your wares. There are restaurants I travel miles to, just because they do a certain rhubarb meringue or lovely fresh anchovies. Actually, when I get there, they sometimes don't have it, and I forgive them, because they have other lovely stuff. As others have mentioned, but these are true for all restaurants really: - service: attentive; that is not obsessive, but not ignoring. The ideal service is that given by a reasonably intelligent human being, who has not been required to observe - by their manager - some bizarre ritual. (The one that always drives me mad is whisking away the bottle of wine to another table.) - lighting: not too bright. So, low general (room) lighting, and some lighting at table. That generally works fine. - distance between tables: there needs to be some. If someone is pushing into me every time they go to the toilet, and if I can hear what they are whispering to their co-diner, then we are too close. As a diner, I need to have some personal space. I am okay with people charging me some money to achieve that. I wish you all the best. We currently have Turkey on the brain (we're walking the Lycian Way this May) and we will undoubtedly pop in when you open, so keep EDF posted on developments.

Natalious13 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Lastest Somerfield/Co-op update... could be > another 2 years before we see a Co-op on Lordship > Lane. From The Independent this morning: > > "Peter Marks, the chief executive of The > Co-operative Group, has revealed that he plans to > close Somerfield's head office in Bristol next > year, putting hundreds of jobs at risk, and that > it will take "at least two years" to convert more > than 650 Somerfield stores to its own brand. > > Speaking for the first time about his plans after > the Co-operative's ?1.57bn acquisition of > Somerfield is completed next month, Mr Marks said > that the UK's largest mutual retailer would run > Somerfield as a "separate entity" for about 18 > months while the integration of the two local > grocery chains takes place." Well there's a pile of concrete something-or-others, that weren't there a while ago. Something seems to be going on (at the old Co-op site that is).