louisiana

What a pity I wasn't part of being able to make that record happen. :-S Tony, are you now an hon. resident of ED? Or is the position something akin to the Chiltern Hundreds?

For that money you can buy a major country pile with heaps of acres, woodland and complete privacy.

Very busy road though.

Throughout this debate, the voices of the bumble bee community have sadly not been heard. I call upon the leaders of that community to step forward...

Buz buz buz I wonder why it does

Stern: None. He was asked to review the economic consequences, which he did. He's an economist. IPCC's Working Group I report (physical basis) is available online in html. Here's the list of the authors of that report. Here's the list of professional scientific bodies that either concur with or do not concur with the IPCC findings. As it's Wikipedia, you are of course free to add the details of any (other) non-concurring organisation, as long as you have the appropriate evidence (quote from their official report). Have you read any of the IPCC reports? (technical, assessment, for-policy-makers-in-less-technical-language etc.)

Ah, I thought it was a 2 million pound mouse. Now that would have been news. :-S

Have you read the Stern Review? Have you read any of the IPCC assessment reports? Or are you just a follower of the highly-qualified-in-meteorology-oceanography-biophysics etc. Nigel Lawson? Or are you indeed Nigel Lawson? If so, I claim my prize.

I once waited over 10 weeks for a delivery to a PO Box. The distance travelled by the item was less than 1 mile.

LL shop keepers who only seem to give a damn about their car-driving customers e.g. the ones currently protesting to Southwark News about the proposed pedestrian crossing.

Watch also for the slow-mo'd bit near the end, where it's a bit clearer what actually happened.

Video on the Grauniad website. He has his hands in his pockets and is walking away from them; gets thwacked from behind; hits the ground badly.

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(Invariably) large women who take up a central position on the bus on the long rear seat, and when it sets off from a stop they immediately burst into some religious hogwash at full broadcasting volume. If you really know that your redeemer liveth, luv, why not keep it between you and him, eh?

Rob da Bank, tootling down LL at 8a.m. this morning, chattin to his missus.

Yes, quite a few people think that there's still another 20% to fall from peak prices. Fine if you are living there, not fine for investors. And that, perhaps, is how things should be.

Hydrogen car RTAs also quite interesting.

Ah, pensions.... First I heard that my retirement age had increased from 60 to 65. Then I was told it had increased from 65 to 66. My company scheme (the biggest in the UK) looks each month more like a basket case. So I'm banking on there not being much around in the way of pension when I get there, wherever 'there' has moved to by then. I think it'll be growing some carrots and spuds and catch the occasional rabbit.

Marmora Man Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Peak Oil will not be a problem - there are many > alternative energy supplies and science will solve > that issue. So are you one of the 'scientists' that will be solving this? There are indeed many alternative energy sources - but they don't work out so cheap, and there will be very hefty infrastructure conversion costs (think petrol station infrastructure, for example), to be acheived in short timescales, if lifestyles are to be maintained. The consequence of PO is not 'no energy', but 'expensive energy'. That will impact in many ways. Fusion energy is a real possibility > within the next 25 years Or is perhaps a fairytale.

> Lou, it's tiny little things on here, your things > range from smallish to medium to huge. Ah, HB, but which are the tiny? And which the huge? In my books the religious tracts stuff is quite serious... as it demonstrates a feebleness of mind that I cannot tolerate. Pack them all off, I say!

And peak oil? And climate change? Which were both points that HAL9000 highlighted. Both PO and CC are at odds with a perpetual (exponential) growth model (which an every rising population etc. demands).

The "south amercian killer bees" you mention (so-called 'Africanised bees') are nothing to do with bumble bees. I can't possibly understand why you want to kill bumbles. I've come across Africanised bees in Cuba, and they didn't do me any harm either. I may have been stung once by a bee (not a bumble) when I was a child (so decades ago). As Asset says, be careful what you wish for.

1. Don't forget climate change is going to have fairly severe consequences for much of southern Europe. Some areas have already been in severe drought for quite a few years (e.g. having drinking water shipped in three times a week, disputes over massive infrastructure projects to get household water to people). The UK will generally be better off than southern Europe climate-wise, regardless of what happens to the Gulf Stream. 2. Don't bank on being able to do work locally. Many of these areas already have severe unemployment, low wages (and even riots - look at what's been happening in Greece etc.). Most of southern Europe is an economic basket case. If your source of earned income is the UK etc., but you are living elsewhere, you may well be much better off. I can charge in the UK five or more times what I can charge across most of southern Europe. And the trading terms there are usually appalling e.g. people pay at 90-120-150 days or more there, but 10-45 days here. Plus often there is no small claims court system there; and few legitimate ways of enforcing commercial contracts. Trading conditions bad = everyone takes the piss. Licensing systems for doing anything (running your own business-wise) are fairly pre-historic, complex and expensive: e.g. in Spain the self-emp working from an office are supposed to pay tax based on the square metres of their desk area! Social security payments can be prohibitively expensive (more than three times UK levels). This won't be changing aytime soon. But if you are a UK pensioner, you will also be in deep doo-doo (owing to exchange rates, unless the Euro falls through the floor) as you can't claim any of the pensioner credits that UK residents can claim. And if you need healthcare, likewise. (If you end up in hospital in southern Spain, for example, you will need to have your relatives visit each day with food. It can be a little third world.)

Ah, just realised meccadave had spotted it too. So not much of interested going on then...

There's a motorcyclist doing a wheelie at the junction of Lordship and Barry Road.