louisiana

AD should acknowledge there is thing thing called climate change (and acknowledge that post-IEA 2008 autumn report things have really moved on and it's no longer sensible for the UK civil service to trot out the same old platitudes) and reflect this in government financial planning, plus incentives, penalties etc. Tinkering at the edges is just not good enough.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Actually, I'm being flippant. > > I'm sure that some guys might interpret some of my > postings as being 'angry', but they're not, of > course. Generally they're intellectual brigandry. > I'm exploring ideas ;-) > > This issue (Matthias Rath and vitamins) makes me > really angry. I become verbally incompetent. > > This kind of dishonorable behaviour (touting snake > oil) is genocidal, and it takes a particular kind > of psychopath to pull it off. Waterboarding is not > good enough. > > It is not reasonable to lay the blame for > embracing thse ideas at the door of Africa. If you > haven't been there it would be difficult to > explain the desperation and lack of education that > these guys face in making everyday decisions. > Yes, but... Mbeki was educated at the University of Sussex.

So thebeard, when will you be changing your handle to merkin?

I know Sean, I know. And I was just saying that the evidence shows blah blah blah. That this whole line of argument is very firmly based in fact and evidence.

Sean, I'm not at all surprised. The police have been doing this stuff for years, decades. They are not shocked because that is what quite a few of them have been doing all their lives. I was there for just a very few of them e.g. at a marriage ceremony in Brixton when the first Brixton riots broke out two hundred yards away and witness to just what kind of shit the police got up to then. I've seen things far, far worse than what we are seeing on all this video footage etc. Circa 1981. The difference now is that just about everyone has a camera or phone with camera or camcorder or whatever. Before, there was never any indisputable evidence. Now there is. That's great. Just a pity that we apparently cannot now legally take pix of the plods. How convenient! They are perhaps only shocked/surprised that they have been 'found out' in terms of public opinion in 'middle England'. They are not used to being on the front page of the Daily Wail pictured doing their mis-deeds.

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hmmm - so far it's easy pot shots and an easy > target, although I'm mostly with Louisiana on an > emotional level It's not emotional. It's factual. From the NY Times this week: With the global economic downturn deepening and confidence in the financial system still elusive, the International Monetary Fund estimates that banks and other financial institutions face aggregate losses of $4.1 trillion in the value of their holdings as a result of the crisis. In its global financial stability report, released Tuesday, the fund estimated that financial institutions would have to write down an estimated $2.7 trillion in loans and securities originating in the United States from 2007 to 2010. That estimate is up from $2.2 trillion in the fund?s report in January, and $1.4 trillion last October. The financial crisis "is likely to be deep and long lasting," the report said, noting that global financial stability has deteriorated further since its October report, especially in emerging markets, particularly in Europe, where banks face more write-downs and may require fresh equity, even as businesses seek to refinance debt. -------------------------- In other words, there is more to come. I could point you to many other similar published opinions in mainstream press. The US may be through the worst of sub-prime, but what about ARMs? That saga has only just begun. And unfortunately our banks and building societies are equally exposed... In Europe, we are the most similar to the US market. > > Now that the banks have (mostly) been stabilised ?? > it's easy to say that money has been wasted, but > history has yet to make a judgement. My gut feel > is that, agaisnt gut instinct, it may have been > teh right thing to do.. > Unfortunately we now have many financial institutions classed as 'too big to fail'. So the govt bails them out and then the country's debt classification falls through the floor and nobody wants the debt our government issues. Here's hoping we don't end up in a basket-case Iceland situation, but... > But the budget is about what happens next. The budget is about paying our way. If the government is loading us with more debt for every future day, that diminishes our ability to pay our way every year from now.

Well first I'd like to stop him from having full-on sex with the bankers five nights a week B) This whole 'heads we win tails you lose' lark is now beyond a joke. If banks are failing, let them fail, and stop bailing them out and putting us in hock for ever after. There will never be enough money to bail out all the failers. Admit it now.

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > louisiana Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Sue Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > People who put all their > letters/qualifications > > > after their name when they're totally > > irrelevant > > > in the context they're using their name > > (grammar) > > > > And worse, people who include PhD in their > email > > address field, as part of their name. > > xxxxxxxxx > > No! I can't believe anyone does that !!!! Americans are the worst culprits. But aren't they always :-S

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > People who put all their letters/qualifications > after their name when they're totally irrelevant > in the context they're using their name (grammar) And worse, people who include PhD in their email address field, as part of their name.

For anyone in doubt about honey bees, bumble bees, wasps (differences, what to do etc.) a member of Kent Beekeepers Association has put together this useful page.

Well done ponderwoman. They do find the strangest places to swarm, don't they? London Beekeepers Association is speaking to Southwark Council. Southwark, and the police, should have called the swarm co-ordinator for London 07922147379 (who can call on quite a few LBKA bee-keepers experienced in dealing with swarms). From what I know about bees and the law, bees have no special protection. They are not listed at protected in any of the wildlife legislation (unlike bats, tawny owls etc.). So they probably have the same degree of protection as, say, an ordinary wild flower. Generally, people have some kind of duty of care under the law but no more.

Sue, I believe the reason why burglars are burglars is that they are not very bright. :-S

Yeah, she's got enough on her plate right now. Didn't she look glum yesterday, making her statement about Bob Not-so-nimble? Anyway, back to the topic... Nice to hear today more funds announced for bee health research. And LBKA is looking at the initial Southwark response on the swarm in East Dulwich.

Do you think Jacqui S will make that a new offence? Impersonating a wasp? :) Or even impersonating a wasp whilst under the influence... Or conspiracy to impersonate... Perhaps some new CCTV could be installed outside Lloyds Bank - and chez HeidiHi - to keep an eye on potential impersonators.

BBW, I have not watched any live telly since January, when works started on my home and my living room became a living hell. Just one or two time shifted progs on iPlayer, not including HE. Tell me more...

HeidiHi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for your message Cate, Southwark council > contacted me straight away by phone ( is this a > record?! One hour from email to phone call!) and > they are coming tomorrow morning at 8am onwards to > inspect all the wasps hanging outside the lounge > window. I have never seen swarms of wasps before > but for some reason or other, we do have a swarm > of them outside the window! You may have a wasp nest e.g. in the eaves of your house. It's a common location for them. Wasp nests are kind of papery structures. Or, you may be confusing honey bees (Apis mellifera) and bumble bees (e.g. Bombus terrestris). Bumble bees are much larger and hairy. They build small nests and don't swarm. So you *may* have a swarm of honey bees. Or...

I woke up this morning There was a postman at my door He said 'You done gone and gotta letta' I said 'You're a-having a-me o-on'

You could always turn it into a blues song :)

+1

Because women's mags means total empty head. Whereas business sections means nice try but the wrong thinking entirely B) Edited to correct spelling.

Once upon a time people had signs up that said 'no hawkers' and so forth. But people have probably forgotten what a hawker is.

intexasatthe moment Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks Louisana - just talking to my friend ( who > rescued the swarm ) about this . > She was seeing it from southwark's point of view ( > H&S ) and saying that she used a different method > to get the bees into a box than she normally would > to minimise disturbance and the bees flying > round. If you wait until evening, the bees will have all stopped flying around anyway. > She was very conscious that it was a public space > and that with possibilty of people being allergic > to bee stings how she'd feel ,if as a result of > her actions collecting them,someone had got > stung. Bees in swarms rarely sting. Because they are not in a hive, so they are not defending anything, 'cos they have nothing to defend. Wasps - not bees - are responsible for most allergic reactions in the UK. > > So think we can understand Southwark's reaction - > but of course they could at least try to get them > recovered by a Bee Keeper . They could indeed.

Put the number in your mobile phone ;-)

Bees will swarm for a variety of reasons. One is limitations of current space (congestion in the hive). Also the age of the queen. A swarm is basically a bunch of generally older bees, with a queen, in search of a new suitable home. The swarm location is just a temporary holding position while they find a place to set up shop. Bee-keepers have a number of approaches/tricks to stop their bees from swarming (they don't want to lose a large number of their bees, after all), such as replacing the queen, or using hives with a larger brood area. But these and other tactics are not always successful. Or the bee-keeper may not be keeping a regular enough eye on his/her bees to prevent the swarming from happening, missing the early warming signs. Things can change a lot in a hive in a week at this time of year. Apparently if you can follow your swarm the bees are still yours, but if you lose the trail, it's finders keepers. People shouldn't be afraid of or alarmed by swarms. The bees in a swarm are quite docile and apart from sending out a few 'home finders' to locate a new home for the swarm they don't get up to much.

I'll tell John Chapple at LBKA about this Southwark 'policy', which seems bonkers but very typical of Southwark Council. He - and the others - deal with many swarms across London every year. The bees, if they can get to them, are re-homed.