
robbin
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Hmmm, so not a "game changer" then!
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"game changer". Really?
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UK's HICP is pretty similar to Germany, slightly lower than France, a fair bit lower than Belgiuum, slightly higher than Spain, almost one tenth the rate in Turkey (now you would be entitled to whinge about inflation if you were there!). So, I'm not following your point about the sky falling in with grinding inflation caused by Brexit. Care to elaborate?
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Here you go - the FT (but it was all over the news the last day or two!) https://www.ft.com/content/049e08e8-d1e7-11e8-a9f2-7574db66bcd5
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dbboy wrote "...How does it effect every household in the UK, with prices slowly but surely continually increasing, so it hits us all in the pocket...." Funny you should write this just the day after the widely publicised much greater drop in inflation than anyone was expecting!!
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Yes, the irony!
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There's nothing to be served by being passive aggressive Rendel - I wasn't having a pop at you (in fact I deliberately chose my words carefully, knowing you can be sensitive to contrary views). Insofar as I was taking any issue with the facts referred to in your post I was pointing out that the Independent refers to "facts" which don't stand much scrutiny from anyone who knows about fraud and corruption in the UK/EU. If we are meant to take home from the Independent article that the UK is a hotbed of corruption based on money laundering in Bermuda, BVI, Cayman, Jersey etc. that's a bogus line of reasoning because their laws and the functioning of their governments are not the same as (or controlled by) the UK. When an argument (the group mentioned in the Indie - not you) is based on manifestly flawed facts it does have a whiff of trying to find 'alternative' measurements with a view to running down the UK. I would never suggest you should go and live in another part of Europe. I would miss your posts (post Brexit there's bound to be a disconnection of the internet between the UK and the rest of Europe - I'm sure George Osborne must have predicted that at some stage, along with all his predictions on immediate massive tax rises, market crashes, housing calamity, etc etc etc? If he didn't, I suspect that's only because he didn't think of it!).
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First of all, yes, I agree that (often overseas) criminals launder money through the UK. However, that pales into insignificance compared to what goes through offshore jurisdictions (and the effect of the secrecy in some such places). Panama, BVI, Jersey, Nevis, Cayman etc. are often cited by commentators as favourite jurisdictions for laundering. The article in the Independent makes it clear that much of the laundering is through other jurisdictions and the figures on one 'alternative' measure relate to offshore jurisdictions. For example, it says this... "Many of the criminal corporate activities within the City of London which have dominated the headlines over the past decade are not classified as corruption by Transparency International. Instead, the media and financial regulators refer to these institutionalised corporate crimes as "inappropriate conduct" or ?mis-selling?. As an alternative metric for financial corruption, the Financial Secrecy Index developed by the Tax Justice Network instead ranks countries based on the number of tax havens and financial secrecy jurisdictions, with Britain and its spider web of crown dependencies and overseas territories including Jersey, Guernsey, Bermuda, the Cayman Islands and British Virgin Islands finishing top of the list." It's fine for fun to lump those countries together, but we don't make the laws in Cayman, BVI etc. They have their own systems, so it's a bit of a bogus 'alternative' analysis. I'm not (obviously) saying there is not corruption in the UK - plainly there is. There is corruption everywhere, but if anyone seriously thinks there's more structural corruption here than say, in parts of Italy, or Greece, then I don't suppose anything would budge them from such a view. I appreciate that in some quarters it's trendy to run down the UK and to push the narrative that everything's fantastic in the EU, but I really don't think this particular subject would be the best one to alight upon to push that point.
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Bob Buzzard Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I believe in fairness, equality, celebrating > diversity, and upholding the rule of law, and also > cherish the European ideals of our continental > neighbours. So do I but let's not look at the EU countries through rose tinted spectacles and kid ourselves in our rush to put the UK down. There's plenty of intolerance, racism and other faults which are in some instances way worse than anything in our country (not least of which is organised crime and corruption). That's particularly so if you are a woman. All the more so if you are a journalist. You only have to remember what happened to Daphne Galizia (Malta), Jan Kuciak (Slovakia) and Viktoria Marinova (Bulgaria) to get an appreciation of what other European societies have to put up with.
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Passiflora Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh dear, surely the OP and others are just > boasting about what they can and can't do to a > property, when there are other people desperate > for a home? Oh dear, I do hope that's not a serious comment!
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JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "The PM appeared to perform her famous "Maybot" > dance as she entered the stage to the tune of > Abba's Dancing Queen while waving her arms and > bobbing her head. " Just wait a second please, while I gouge my eyes out...
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She was hardly a great administrator at the Home Office.
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Because she doesn't have the brains/ability to think on her feet. Rather, she resorts to her stock prepared answers.
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JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Only economic success will really keep remainers > quiet - and I just can't see it. > > If UK had a huge success then so be it - but half > and half solutions surely won't bring anything > better than membership. I certainly agree with that second observation. As to the first, I doubt that economic success would keep the more rabid remainers quiet. Economic stats are so complex and varied that they can always be interpreted in a way that shows some negative movement. It's like the ? - on the one hand it is great that the pound has weakened (personally I've made quite a profit on that) and while a movement like that plainly helps our exports, tourism and therefore B of P, on the other hand it could be held out as a negative factor such as causing inflation for imports - and vice versa. There's enough inherent flexibility and complexity in our economic situation (it would be the same for any country's economic situation) to feed (some) remainers' angst for years to come.
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It's DR's stock response when he doesn't agree with something or finds it uncomfortable. Don't rise to it. If need be, you can always distract him with references to Jose Mourinho, Hertfordshire, Paul Pogba and 10th place!
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Puts me in mind of this...
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I doubt he knows much about football though.
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Diable Rouge said: "Try not to be a shitstirring troll..." As the manic (former) leading football manager said to the over-rated, under-performing French narcissist.
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Try not to let your frustrations about Jose spill over onto this forum!
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This is a hypothetical question I realise, (because there's no chance of another referendum) but if the result of a 'best of 3' further vote didn't meet with your approval, would there be another march calling for 'best of 5'?
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He's delusional and at the same time very shifty.
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I'm afraid I'm not blessed with your McCluskyesque certainty. As far as I can see The World Bank, The IMF and the UN all list the UK as 5th in the world by nominal GDP, not 6th, so the reference to 6th doesn't tally with your speculation as the answer either. Amac would know whether he or she was referring to Europe (in error) or the world (also seemingly in error).
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diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Loz (male) didn't write what you quoted, amac > did... Ah yes, you are correct. Then I direct my question to amac instead.
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diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You have misread robbin, as Loz didn't write > that...:) What did she mean then? :)
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