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Back at ya. I can do pompous too. Would you like some links to peer reviewed neuroscience research around unconscious bias instead?

TheCat once again ignores the crux of my post and tries to find an issue when there isn't one. If someone finds it difficult to understand a person's accent and says so, fine. If they then throw in some comment about their origin, then that may be an indicator of something else, unconscious or otherwise. And no, not all Brits do sound the same. I have been to some parts of Scotland and struggled to understand the slang spoken.

Unconscious bias often is defined by race and there is lots of psychological research into this, that we have unconscious aversions to those who do not look like us. Disability is included in that along with ethnicity. For example, we are more likely to define a different culture that also belongs predominantly to people of a different ethnic group by that ethnicity, than we are to one from our own ethnic group. So this is how some people end up tarring all Muslims as the same (when there are fifty different national cultures depending on the Islamic country, and even more depending on the non Islamic countries) but don't apply the same blanket view to the wide range of different Christian denominations in the World. Struggling to understand a persons speech for example is another good example. There are many dialects/ accents, with all their slang that other Brits would struggle to understand. But a person would never say 'I don't mind scousers, but I do struggle to communicate well with the new village shopkeeper'. It is the need to make a point of someone being 'not of this country' that is the issue, when what the woman could say instead, is that she struggles to understand his accent, and leave the immigrant comment out of it altogether. Language matters.

And like a broken record, TE44 still won't answer the core question. How many people have to die to define a pandemic? Infection rates are rising again. So too are hospital admissions and deaths. Only a fool can not see the correlation between that and lifting lockdown. So I ask you again TE44, how many people have to be dying each day before you recognise a pandemic. Clearly a 900 a day back in April was not enough for you. Nor is in excess of 1 million globally either. When you answer that question with a figure, then we can talk about the outliers you keep citing vs the core consensus of 99 percent of everyone else. And fyi, I am going to keep asking you that question until you answer it. So you may as well.

Still not answering that question are you though? Yet you feel free to throw around hypothesized figures on other things. Hypocritical to the core.

Yes you run away now. Anything to avoid answering that question right?

And there you go again, avoiding answering the core question and resorting to insult. So c'mon, let's have an answer. How many people are you prepared to see die (or impacted for life with lung damage) before you think restrictions are needed. What is your benchmark?

Facebook and other platforms hiding behind the US constitution should have done something a long time ago. There is still plenty of material referencing Q Anon and other conspiracy theories all over them. In short, until they change their business models, from ones that encourage clickbait, they haven't really addressed the core problem. TE44, you keep presenting these ad hoc incidents as some kind of argument for doing away with the restrictions, so I ask you again, how many people are you prepared to see die (or impacted for life with lung damage) before you think restrictions are needed. What is your benchmark? It is a simple question, but you never seem to want to answer it.

But you do Clutterqueen. You wrote an incorrect statement as though it were fact when there was no basis for doing do. Worse than that, you did it with no consideration for any of the valid points being made. It is almost akin to trolling.

Where people can not do their own readings PP, the GP has a duty to arrange or advise of an alternative. Receptionists should be trained in the advice to offer. This is how local healthcare is supposed to operate. I would go back to the surgery and ask for an alternate arrangement explaining no pharmacy can be found to do it. If they do not provide one. I would make a complaint.

Why won't your GP surgery do one? If you need a repeat prescription then your GP has a duty to provide what you need for that. General healthcare has not stopped. So I would question that.

Have already gone through this with TE44, who seems to think viruses stand still at any given moment and fails to understand the difference between seasonal viruses and one that is active all the time. The usual winter flu intake will happen, and we'll see how effective this years flu vaccine is when it does. Meanwhile, we have daily exponential growth of covid as the public become more complacent. Easy enough for anyone to understand I should think.

Yes, that is what happens when someone won't accept the evidence presented to them. You know full well that influenza is one of the most monitored viruses on the planet, but your cognitive dissonance is so pronounced you think you know better than decades of highly qualified people doing that research and collecting that data. You keep repeating the same nonsense as a result.

It is arguable that opening windows on buses and trains will not really do anything to mitigate spread, given how confined the space is on those vehicles and how close people generally sit or stand to each other.

Here we go again. The world reports flu figures annually. The average deaths from flu each year form ALL of those reports going back decades is 500,000. I have linked you to those annual reports before. Stop playing games. It is getting very tedious now.

Here we go again. The world reports flu figures anuallly. The average deaths from flu each year form ALL of those reports going back decades is 500,000. I have linked you to those annual reports before. Stop playing games. It is getting very tedious now.

TE44, people suddenly getting ill and filling ICU wards with a novel virus IS proof of a pandemic. I ask you again, because you have never actually answered the question, how many people have to flood hospitals and die before you define a pandemic? A million globally have already died (twice the annual death rate of flu in 9 months), but that it seems is not enough for you. This is the first time a global pandemic has been mitigated in this way, with restrictions and lockdowns and mass ongoing testing, monitoring and mitigation. But the process has been used on local levels for other smaller pandemics. So it is not an unknown science. It is clear, that if you let this virus spread freely, so that most people get it, more people will end up in ICU and more people will die. On the ongoing malarky around data collection, this is always going to be fraught with difficulties unless every person is tested and with a test that is almost 100 percent accurate. The issue with the government approach is their insistence that tracking and tracing is centrally organised, over running a localised system. They are wedded to big contracts to their favoured contractors in other words, over using a system that is known to work much better and gives resources to local authorities and local health trusts. And for that, they can not be forgiven.

Nowhere does it say he has been sacked, nor is Sue asking for that to happen. Clear enough for you?

Everything you post points to the overall conspiracy you believe in, New World Order, false data, a big plot to ruin the economy and impoverish us all. All of the cranks you site, and they are cranks, are part of that narrative. And yes, I have qualification to challenge any of the science that ANY of these so called sources you point to cite.

You are very predictable TE44. Look at the site you are linking to. 'Description: The Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG) is is a Montreal-based independent research and media group of progressive writers, academics and activists who are critical of globalisation and the New World Order.' In other words, just about as biased a narrative as one can find. As for Dr Heiko Schoning, he is another one deliberately lying to you about the science.

I don't know how else the message can be got through to those who flout the current regulations in this way. 10k is a lot of money to most people to be fair, but no, will never equal the value of a life. Somewhere along the way, the messaging has gone wrong. Young people who fail to see that although they may be at low risk of dying, they need to be part of the effort to stop the spread. It is the two week incubation period that I think needs to be emphasised, but of course, that has the danger of terrifying other people from going anywhere near others at all. I think every government is struggling with getting the balance right, and people have to take responsibility for their own behaviour too.

And there you go again, making stuff up. Yet not a single person in Biden's team has tested positive. Funny that eh? Not to mention your complete inability to understand how the virus spreads it seems.

Robbie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The email I provided disproves your statement. > > I'm not sure why you couldn't, and still can't > bring yourself to admit the fact that it's > questionable. > > Mind you, the way you seemingly laugh at the > theories involving children, aggressively > attacking those who mention it is alarming and > very suspicious. No it does not. And yes, I will laugh at 'theories' that are the invention of some bored armchair conspiracy theorists, whether they involve children or not. So will most people who understand the difference between that and credible corroborated evidence. Read this yet? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-65000-hot-dogs/ Need any more links that show the pizzagate theory for the nonsense it is, or are you going to double down yet again?

This is for you Robbie, Save yourself before it is too late. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-65000-hot-dogs/

So that is a yes then. Everything is a conspiracy to you. The only fact here, is that most of Trump's campaign team, went into active campaigning with complete disregard for the advice sensible people have been following for months, and low and behold, caught the virus. That should be perfectly easy to understand.