Hemingway Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- You know that people > will die if tomorrow we stop fossil fuel, flying > and go to negative GDP. Poverty is a massive > killer in its own right, as left wingers are > normally so keen on telling us, a lack of > available and affordable fuel for heating, > cooking, clean water, food processing etc. let > alone the funding of social care, health services > etc with our economies going to some kind of > ruritarian uncapitalistic fantasy land. We can't > just go straight to carbon free green paradise. We > have to set achievable and manageble targets. The > technology isn't there yet. And all of this parks > aside the obvious fact that India and China and, > under its current president, the US aren't going > to join with us. There are solutions but they > involve using the cleaner of the current fossil > fuels whilst we develop greener technology better > and using nuclear, good luck with selling that to > the people gluing themselves to Waterloo Bridge. That is one massive excuse to over look the small things people can do to make a difference - and those small things add up to a HUGE impact. Our government should be leading the way and influencing other countries to use non fossil fuel and .... (omg, do I need to spell it out?)