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Lucky that those four mean bastards didn't pee in your pint

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At the Peckham Soft Play my little boy kept pointing to this guy saying "bear, bear". It was John Pienaar.

I can do sarky, I can do satire, I do a nice line in nonsense, but in this case I was being perfectly straight.

In kids speak it was certainly bad, as in wicked!

David Carnell, your 2.39pm post was a wonderfully concise piece of writing. One of the best I have ever read on this forum. Thanks.

...or because we are a bunch of hard-looking shade-wearing emoticons!

Er, like, Keef did they not just win something, like the Carling Cup or summit, or was I dreaming that bit.

My sentiments exactly *Bob* - could never quite articulate to my thespian friend why I disliked the theatre so much and now you've done it for me - I'll print this out and next time i see him I'll hand it over. Anyway, you know you'll soon be writing something for the organ during the intermission. Oh, and in the spirit of this thread - how I bloody hate it when people put words in my mouth...!

Thanks for the post Moz200; always good to hear about crime thwarted and about the police response.

Here is what to do: raise your eyebrow at the driver, mutter a little under your breath, find a seat upstairs, cough and splutter for a minute or two, read a few pages of "The Kite Runner" or other such bestseller. In the evening, gripe about it on the Forum. Repeat the next day.

As a few posts on here have pointed out this is one where there will always bit a theory/practice split. What sounds fine when you are pondering the problem sitting in your living room with a glass of Chablis suddenly gets far more urgent and taxing when you are sitting on the ward next to your dying relative. There is a sense of humanist bravardo in some people's hardline assumption that they would switch off the machine or administer the fatal dose. I suspect, in reality, being cruel to be kind is not such an easy option.

Well done t'pool. My mate from Rhyl (suburb of Liverpool) will be happy.

People are against the idea: A) because they are a bunch of witty liberal Republicans who enjoy sniping from the sidelines or B) its an unbearably patronising idea

Dom, I am starting to get your position, though I think you are confusing community, society and State. If you are talking about the State, then yes, it could be argued that the State is too big, but community, society? I don't think so. As Mockney pointed out, it's nonsensical to talk of community or society as constructs - you may as well talk about the individual as a construct (and some commentators have). Society is a given, it exists whether we, or Mrs Thatcher, likes it. And it will outlive all of us individuals here. Your point seems to be that Mrs T wanted to inspire the disenfranchised members of society to better themselves by freeing them from regulation. Fair enough, but I don't see it. It did not happen. Of course there were always people at the bottom of the pile, but Thatcher's strident policies had the effect of creating an identifiable underclass who became trapped. I actually think she wanted to make Britain more Economically competitive and combative but knew there would be collateral damage, knew there would be a price to pay. I wouldn't say she did not care, but I would contend that she thought it was a price worth paying.

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Even if that's as maybe, I'd sooner pleadge my allegiance to Helen Mirren

HonaloochieB loves...getting in there first.

Methinks straight Elbow Grease would be her Maj's preference for her royal subjects.

Dearest Annasfield, my humblest apologies. I couldn't remember, what with your guys and the Toffees playing leapfrog all the time who was in that venerated spot at this given moment. Forgive?

*furtively looks over KalamityKel's shoulder* *Oooo..would not have had her down as a reader of that kind of novel....* *mops brow - reaches for stiff drink*

Mockney, hats off to you. Hope you'll be very happy as a Southwark Community Warden.

That's true, Brendan - you sure didn't.

Liverpool, best team in Europe...but only fifth best in the Premiership! No, I hope they make it.