Ted Max

Seems the biggest change, apart from the colour of the fence, is that the dog "exercise area" (some free weights, a pool and a couple of treadmills, I assume) has got a lot smaller. At the moment the dogs have the whole bit down by the roundabout plus the diagonal on the Ondine side of the Green. This proposal cuts that to just the section by the roundabout.

the whole of ED is too residential How could it be less residential? A few friendly bombs? BTW, I'm 35, and lack just 40% of a child and an SUV to fully meet your terms. And I'd welcome more late night frivolity, (as it were).

It may be academic now, but I think with all the money gone into the Oglander one trick they missed out on was not opening it up a bit more out the front to make it look slightly less "regulars only" - but perhaps they would not have been allowed to. And re the thread header, if it had been in ED proper then I think it would have done OK. Down here I think the "nice pub" crowd (you know what I mean) head to the Gowlett if they're keeping it local, or up to LL. Oglander sort of got overlooked in between.

Hello all. May I? This has to be the Oglander and the paper-thrusters will be the ever-anxious Bellenden Residents' Group. Their objection is more along the lines of the "we don't want more flats, more people, more cars" etc etc stuff than actually keeping the pub - about which they could clearly care less. In fact if there were no pub there and someone was planning to open one you can be fairly sure they'd be against that too.