I don't see how artificial posturing (or a little harmless trolling, if you like) helps debate. It sets up false antagonisms and creates perceived divisions where possibly none existed, or widens division where consensus could have been achieved. Which is unnecessary, unless you just like arguing for argument's sake, which I suspect you do, Mr Dale. (btw I don't think Disco's postings are all that bad in this instance, I'm just making a broader point in reply to yours)