Mick Mac

A bark is dog speak for "will you ever **** off"

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The official line is he has a hip injury, nothing > serious, just feels it when he dives. Diving is killing the game.

Looks like a promotion for Brian Gallagher, from the Plough to the Dog - I wish him and the pub well.

Soldiers aren't always the smartest. Their smart friends should look after them Quids. I had a friend of a friend who was a squaddie and friend chose The Swan in Stockwell as the place to introduce us. It was all going well until midnight, when the Swan played the Irish national anthem. He (ex squaddie) went on a mad rant outside and refused to come back in. 😁

We had this two weeks ago on Friern Road.

I think my link is also in context....:)

I saw him on Newsnight last night - there seemed then to be some uncertainty about what he actually said - but if it's as below then, I can see he's in big trouble and rightly so ?Let?s remember, when Hitler won his election in 1932 his policy then was that Jews should be moved to Israel. He was supporting Zionism.? Read more at: https://inews.co.uk/opinion/ken-livingstone-wilfully-twisted-real-story-hitler-zionism/

It's disappointing, but at the end of the day they are volunteers, and I take my hat off to them for giving up their free time. Even when they cant cope with everything. Perhaps drip feeding the bags over a period of time might be helpful to them. In reality clothes are often sold by the ton for very little money.

But her name sounds so sweet...

suzieb Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > any theft of any sort should carry a 5 year > sentence, any carrying of a weapon should carry a > 10 year sentence ...it you attack someone it sould > be a 20 year sentence there should be fixed term > sentences for all crimes then just maybe the crims > would think twice about doing any crimes ... the > prisons should lock them up 23 hours a day not > have pool tables and the inmates allowed to walk > around as if they are in a club ... Gosh! Full prisons. And even in countries where they cut the thiefs' hands off, they still have theft.

I was thinking of the Blythe too. A good example of an old pub doing what its supposed to do, sell beer.

Otta, you'll find very few of my posts on this thread are about Martin McGuinness. I didn't give him an RIP. The thread was intended to be about the conditions at the time. I say that hand on heart. If it wasn't him it would have been someone else I actually intended my last post to you to be conciliatory! Pointing out that many others in NI trusted what was in the media. Apologies about the stock response, that didn't come across as intended Amen. Ceasefire.

JoeLeg Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mick Mac Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > The British did terrible things in Ireland, and > then got the strategy wrong and did more terrible > things. And then others did it too. And then no > one knew how to end it. Thanks Joe - appreciate the information a lot, and this is partly what I was suggesting in the OP and beyond. But aside from the army, the situation even before the army got anywhere near NI was gruesome in a different way. You might agree that when I say that most people in England will have had their information from conventional sources (and I think UK media during the troubles was probably controlled or at least subject to veto by uk intelligence services/MOD) then "most people" doesn't include the army itself on the ground, or closely connected like yourself. People within the army, obviously knew exactly what was going on and can give useful feedback - but again are probably concerned about reputation / in some cases possible charges - even though some would be following instructions. And for that reason the army has some reason/excuse, as being agents directed by a higher authority. Thanks.

The post was Otta specific. But as to the point of my post Joe Leg. Maybe you could fill us in on what other atrocities the army admit to internally? Most other people have to rely on conventional sources of information, that's the point. And we are hostage to that reporting. Please expand. Don't hold back.

What if the hermits don't own the cave - or the pub.

Yes, i was quoting you Otta. As I feel that your stock response to any accusations about the actions of the state, is to say exactly that. Your comment came directly after a highlighted point about the army (state) supplying explosives for a bomb that killed Catholics. You dont seem to went to differentiate. Although i can see some softening of your stance maybe. But I'm no longer particularly fussed. This subject is too difficult it seems for most people to accept. I do think its down to the British media presenting itself (UK) as almost wholly honourable for so long. We are what we Read. We trust our sources. Eg: for 20 years my mum believed the UK government/media version of events on Bloody Sunday. Because she trusted the Government and the Widgery report and the media more than the people of Derry. I note you refect on Bloody Sunday as a shameful day for the uk. But before say 2000 and without the public enquiry would you not just have believed the official version of events as it was protrayed here, then. There are so many events that didnt get an enquiry, but people know what happened.

You don't

The last effort only lasted 2 pages - back in the day when people were called Keef and Brendan http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,474981,page=1

And I'm sad that it'll be another 3 years before I can revisit this subject matter. I usually leave it about 3 years and then say it all over again. :)

Lordship516 I admire your efforts in getting the EDF to give a toss what the government did, but they don't. They fall into the following categories 1) Don't believe and won't believe that the state did these things 2) Believe, but don't care that the state did these things 3) Those that say it was justified, or "both sides did terrible things" - forgetting that the state is not supposed to take sides, but to protect all groups within society equally But there you go. It is what it is.

I rarely eat in pubs - I don't really know why tbh, although if I'm out for beers ill tend to eat before i go out I'm assuming you are not including the Lordship Frnaklins and Palmerston where I think people consider to be restaurants I think my choices are pubs for drinking and the above three if going out principally for food.

I like that AM.

I think Im now lost on my own thread. (:

The James Joyce of the Edf.

Dave. You win the hard core prize for this thread big boy. And yes, I'm playing the "man".