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We got to heavenly hair and Nails by the Harvester. They've always maanged our recalcitrant son no 1!

How are you feeling about it Heidihi? These guidelines might help you plan for a good elective CS, if it comes to it http://www.radmid.demon.co.uk/csgood.htm One thing i was worried about, if my twin birth ended with a CS, was whether I'd get to have skin to skin and breastfeed right away, it seems the baby is often removed whiel the mother is sewn up, and then you can't hold the baby while in recovery. Worth asking about those things if it's important to you.. you can have the baby undressed and have skin to skin whne you're ready. xx

One of my best friends is Fijian.. but she's currently away in Fiji getting married. I can quiz her on her return in Sept!

See here too: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/records.aspx?cat=074-lcc_10&cid=-1&Gsm=2008-06-18#-1 This is an example of what sort of info log books contain: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/lofiversion/index.php/t2041.html

It includes the school log books for all local schools! School log books are fascinating, esp from during the war.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/records.aspx?cat=074-lcc_10&cid=-1&Gsm=2008-06-18#-1 - school archives listed here, both boys and girls

"Friern School opened in 1896 as a primary school for girls and boys.It was later to become a secondary modern called Friern Girls High School until 1978 when it amalgamated with Honor Oak Grammar School and became known as Waverley School which remained open until 2002. A fire destroyed a lot of the building shortly afterwards" See about 4/5 down the page here: http://www.derelictlondon.com/id49.htm

School log books http://www.aim25.ac.uk/cats/118/13227.htm

My mother died when I was barely 22.. my younger sister had just had a baby and my brother was doing his A-levels. Now I'm a mother myself, it breaks my heart how scared she must have been for us (she was a single parent) But I hope I am like her in the way that she always encouraged us to do our best, to follow our dreams.

That's the plan I think! Wednesday mornings in rhe picnic area over the holidays... and I think a few people will be getting together at the Horniman on Fridays in August (they have theatre in the gardens)

10am onwards I thinkwe said... willbring picnic blankets and some lunch and hang around as long as my tribe will let me! Though with two babies intent on going in opposite directions and a 6 yo who thinks it's fun to hang upside down in trees.. that might not eb very long!

Pickle Wrote:. > Thankfully I'm not quite as bad as my Mum when it > comes to hanging the washing out - she (verging on > OCD I think) must always use the same colour pegs > when hanging something requiring more than one. > Same applies to socks - both must be hung using > the same colour. OMG, I do that too.. doesn't everybody?!

Picnic area. All parents/carers and children welcome!

I think it would make sense to ask if you can see another consultant for a second opinion at least. If you're not keen on confrontation, I'd contact Cathy Walton directly, and enquire about changing your consultant as well.

Take him off and put him down, try NOT to yelp as that attracts their interest. xx

I think all formulas are much the same, despite claims of the companies.. with regard to preparing bottles etc, food standards agency is the best source imo. Note the need to use hot water to scald the powder then allow feed to cool, for safety to kill possible bacteria in the powder. http://www.food.gov.uk/news/newsarchive/2007/jul/nonsterile http://www.food.gov.uk/news/newsarchive/2006/dec/infantform Parent leaflet: http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Publicationsandstatistics/Publications/PublicationsPolicyAndGuidance/DH_4123619

http://www.new-baby-and-beyond.com/breech-birth.html xx

Have you already seen that named consultant? I can recommend Leonie Penna as being the most progressive of the doctors there, maybe call and ask to speak to her secretary, see if you can get her opinion. It's also possible to discuss with the head midwife, to see what they feel about natural delivery. The hospital will have guidelines for their preferred protocol for a vaginal breech birth which you can request in advance and discuss through with them/ For eg I looked at the twin guidelines and agreed with them I did not wish to have continuous monitoring, or a paediatrician present in the room. Being informed will help you plan and choose the best path for you. Having said that, a planned caesarian can be a positive experience.

plimsoul Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > interesting, a friend sent me an article that was > in the times on the 20th (section 2) saying that > actually there is pretty much no real evidence > that breast feeding is any better for either mum > or child. this would imply that it is a personal > choice which is great and no pressure While of course everyone should feel free to do what they feel is right, and there's no need to feel guilty... the press reports have been rather lopsided as the truth regarding the research is rather more complex than they report.. http://www.babyfriendly.org.uk/newsletter/email_updates/news/news_update_210709b.htm "It is important to be aware that the protective effect of breastfeeding is stronger in relation to some illness, notably gastroenteritis, than it is for other illnesses such as allergies. This does not mean that there is no protective effect against those other illnesses...Importantly, where the evidence shows a slight protective effect of breastfeeding, this can still be the result of well performed research. Therefore, to describe the evidence as weak because of a lower degree of protection is inaccurate and misleading. It is important to note that a small protective effect of breastfeeding against a significant illness will have a dramatic effect across a population."

millsa Wrote:> > Does anyone alse hates expressing as much as I > did? I found it the most boring thing in the > world, sitting in a room on my own and pressing > for loooong minutes when I could have had a > well-deserved nap instead! Yup! Though my special pumping bra which caused so much hilarity on another thread means I could do it hands free while surfing the EDF!

Jacqueline Wilson? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Clean-Break-Jacqueline-Wilson/dp/0385608357/ref=cm_lmf_tit_3 THis: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Curious-Incident-Dog-Night-time/dp/0099450259/ref=cm_lmf_tit_6 Marjorie Blackman? http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_b?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Marjorie+Blackman&x=12&y=15

fmay Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Unfortunately refused Nuk bottles too but I will > try the avent cup and toy/blanket soother idea. > Thanks for your help! You can take the inner seal out the first few tries then the milk flows very fast (but messy) No reason not to stick with the soft white spout right up to and past a year if it's comforting. Setting up a regular lullaby CD at bedtime and establishing a good routine for naps and bath/bed might also be helpful while you have the bf element as a prop, then carry on with the rest of the stuff when you drop the bf... But you know, from about 7/8m, I have found all my children largely lose interest in the breast during the day, and end up wanting it bedtime/nightime/if they're upset or ill. I know with a gannet like 5m old it's hard to believe, but they develop and move on as they get older, regardless of what you do!

Well, it will be easier once he is on solids. The avent cups with the white spout are quite good for smaller babies.. though it's true that a cup doesn't have the same comfort factor. Mine have had milk from a bottle from time to time till well over a year (nap times) when not breastfed so I don't have personal experience.. you could introduce a soft blanket or toy to hold close while you bf from now on, to act as a source of comfort later. Have you tried a nuk bottle with newborn latex teat? I have had most success with that and so have some other mums I know with bottle refuseniks. Use expressed milk at least at first, for a familiar taste. THings is, milk is a big source of nutrition till a year or more.. though you can include yoghurt, cheese etc for the calcium.

fmay Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Talk about the guilt....I am being made to feel > dreadful for not wanting to be breastfeeding for a > whole two years. Any advice on weaning a baby off > the breast when they absolutely will not take a > bottle, and never have? We are trying for more > success with the cup but I worry that as a cup > isn't exactly soothing,so when it comes to weaning > him off breastfeeding, how can I get my little one > off the boob properly without completely > traumatising him!?! How old is he?

helena handbasket Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Okay *takes a deep breath > These women have asked for advice about formula. > They have already made a personal decision, and > are now asking for information. > Can we please save the breastfeeding rhetoric for > another forum? > I'm really starting to lose patience with this. > Hey, chill! No need for you to "lose your patience" at all! All I said was "You can't express instead?" I wouldn't call that rhetoric! As i said, I didn't express for no 1, I was surprised with the twins it was a lot easier than I'd thought. Just sharing my experience!