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Posted by roywj Today, 05:02PM The health centre and schools were always included as an issue. I think some people have focused on Melbourne Grove but the CPZ covers a greater area than that. CPZ creep is natural and we suffered even when surrounding areas only introduced 12-2, 11-1 etc. If you live around Lordship Lane then you can vote for two hour windows when you get the opportunity again. There is also a big problem with people selling cars on the road, long term cars parked which never move, abandoned vehicles etc. The CPZ solves all of these issues as well. We have parked vans in our street festooned with parking ticks and have been there for months. Dont hold your breath. I was against the CPZ in our street but am now a confirmed fan. Life is much better.

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stecoward101 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > @Sally Buying - When you say a while back when do > you mean. I have lived in the neighbourhood for > nearly a decade and have never been consulted on > this. Can people stop living in the past and > recognise a problem. Believe this was 2019, may be wrong. posting from RCH ex Cllr for the area Posted by rch January 08, 05:33PM Firstly... thanks again, Janet. I've now seen the photos and understand the location and the problem. It was great that you took the photos and that the lorry stopped and left a note, so hopefully the damage can now be repaired with an insurance claim. Macutd... the difference between Melbourne Grove and other roads is that it's too narrow here for some cars to pass when cars are parked on both sides of the road. There needs to be passing spaces inserted at the junctions at minimum, which would help enormously. The council proposed doing this with extended double yellow lines but it was blocked by councillors. Instead, a small fortune was spent on dysfunctional consultations and up-grading the existing speed cushions to speed humps. But, not only is this not addressing the actual problems, but it's causing other problems. We've been saying for YEARS that the car damage isn't caused by speeding (which has regularly been measured at an average speed of 19mph), but by the narrowness of the roads. Jamming, there's one specific location where special Thames Water sewer flood control pump mechanisms in the road along a specific terrace could be damaged by implementing speed humps, thereby causing intense internal flooding, so we have been discussing other legal methods of speed control works which could also accommodate some of the passing problems. FYI, there are three legal ways to control speeding in a 20mph zone... 1)speed humps, 2) buildouts on a junction corner, and 3) pedestrian islands. Speed humps are the most problematic. Yes, creditwheredue... residents voted in a highways consultation for the double yellow lines at the Colwell junction, but councillors objected. As much as I hate ugly double yellow lines, it's even more distressing watching regular road rage damage incidents outside my house, which other local residents are also witnessing. Slowly but surely, me and other residents are uniting to try to get Highways and councillors to understand the problems, which will inevitably cost more council funds to address. This has been going on for DECADES... Surprised you did not know about Melbourne Grove as it appears you live there according to a posting you made. Stacey-lyn We are in Melbourne Grove. I have no idea how they keep any customers. However they did refund me the 15 months money that I had paid for their terrible service.

stecoward101 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Continuing on the question do I live on Melbourne > Grove. Would this matter if I did? Are only people > from Melbourne Grove allowed to comment on the > success or failure of this. From past experience the answer would be yes. Closing off Melbourne Grove was defeated by common sense a while a back but lets have it closed residents and Southwark used the covid 19 thing to do what people voted against and are using this virus to pass what they want all over the borough. Not thought out at all and certainly not any joined up plans.

Do you live in Melbourne Grove by any chance Stecowward?

exdulwicher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Citation needed, I think. There were about 2.7 > million cars in total in London recently. I doubt > the ULEZ is going to result in them all being > scrapped > > Depends how it was measured and what was meant by > it (I've not actually seen his comment anywhere, > just taking it from that post above). 2.7 million > fewer journeys (per a defined timeframe - annually > / monthly / weekly?) vs 2.7 million vehicles just > disappearing forever; the former being much more > likely than the latter! > > Congestion Charge, when that was introduced, > resulted in an almost immediate (within a month) > reduction in traffic of 15% although that's crept > up steadily since then with occasional spikes down > as the price increased and a drift upwards mostly > due to the sheer number of PHVs (predominantly > Uber) being registered and an increase in van > deliveries, especially to offices. > > That's dropped back down again now, replaced by > van deliveries to homes since very few people are > actually in offices! I seem to recall that I have read that figure somewhere. What I recall is that was the number of registered vehicles that are in the area bordered by the north and south circular roads that will be non compliant, not just London, because of being diesel/ petro/ old when the ULEZ comes into effect in Oct 2021 and will have to be replaced or scrapped. One effect it was said that many people will be unable to replace their cars because they cannot afford to i.e OAP's and the lower paid. Hence why there will be a great reduction. Also the ?12.50 a day to move from a to b with all the other charges now in force was not tenable. Just how many cars in total are registered in the North/South area. It must be possible to produce these figures

Like Champion HIll, in place for 18 months no matter lets extend it for a further 18 months and then see. We do not know if it works yet.

bubbachumps Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think it's wonderful to walk down Grove Vale now > on foot, children on scooters. Much nicer and > easier. The council needs to take bold steps to > address the air quality issue we have locally. You missed out the lambs gamboling in the front gardens. All I can see is heavier traffic and jams. The council needs to exercise common sense not bold steps.

Public toilets

As I get a disabled blue badge discount I suspect that things will be even more complicated although things have not changed since the CPZ went live started. No doubt there are no details on the system. As people are "working from home" details and answers will be thin on the ground. Thanks for the number

So all the houses that face the road do not matter? There are more of them than large houses I would think.

I have an apple computer how do I go about renewing my permit which is coming up for renewal. Before always spoke with Southwark and there was no problem. Is there a number you can ring?

How do these timed closures effect cars, do they have to follow the route mentioned above?

As I mentioned earlier it does not matter what Southwark do re monitoring if it does not meet what they want they will execute a tmo and start again as is the case with Champion Hill. From 18 months originally to now 36 months before they decide. if you are under the impression that these trials are only for a temporary period see email regarding Champion Hill. Which I suspect will be applied to all these works taking place. "Thank you for your e-mail. I note your query on the reason for retaining the ?No Entry? restriction on Champion Hill. Given the challenges in establishing the full CW 17 route to meet TfL?s cycling quality criteria , we recognise that the Champion Hill trial still needs further time to be in place before we can fully assess its impact on the local road network. We have therefore used the powers granted to the council under the May 2020 TMO changes to carry out a further trial period before determining whether this change should be made permanent. The re-trial will be in place for a maximum of 18 months, after which a decision on the way forward will be made, taking into consideration feedback or comment received from the public and monitoring data. Your comment will be considered carefully in determining the way forward after the trial period Given the reduced use of public transport in the lockdown, and the anticipated low usage levels for many months, it is important that the council and other strategic transport bodies consider how people will move around the capital. If we are to avoid this shift resulting in increased levels of car use it is vital for those bodies to take steps to encourage a modal shift towards walking and cycling.

If you are under the impression that these trials are only for a temporary period see email regarding Champion Hill. Just keep moving the goalposts "Thank you for your e-mail. I note your query on the reason for retaining the ?No Entry? restriction on Champion Hill. Given the challenges in establishing the full CW 17 route to meet TfL?s cycling quality criteria , we recognise that the Champion Hill trial still needs further time to be in place before we can fully assess its impact on the local road network. We have therefore used the powers granted to the council under the May 2020 TMO changes to carry out a further trial period before determining whether this change should be made permanent. The re-trial will be in place for a maximum of 18 months, after which a decision on the way forward will be made, taking into consideration feedback or comment received from the public and monitoring data. Your comment will be considered carefully in determining the way forward after the trial period Given the reduced use of public transport in the lockdown, and the anticipated low usage levels for many months, it is important that the council and other strategic transport bodies consider how people will move around the capital. If we are to avoid this shift resulting in increased levels of car use it is vital for those bodies to take steps to encourage a modal shift towards walking and cycling. As you will be aware, the modal filter on Champion Hill was installed to assist in that modal shift." Regards

Paradise2 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The wooden plant pots are being put across > Melbourne Grove etc this morning so now closed. > The children in the schools in Dulwich Village go > back to school on Monday 7th so things may get > worse with traffic then. That?s until they close > the roads through the village at peak times Also Elsie and the other roads are now also being prepared. Madness.

You could complain but as Southwark is working at home don't expect an answer

Believe Sopers are on holiday for 2 weeks

I received this on email because I once went to Community meeting and left my name. With all the problems that are arising of street closures I am wondering how many people will be aware of this Southwark questonaire or is it just a smoke screen for them to do what ever they want and say people replied. Just how many know people about it, or will it just be lets get rid of the motor mob. Southwark Highways department is asking all parents or carers of school-age children to respond to the new School Travel Survey. We want to know how your children get to school currently, and how that might change from September. We know there is going to be a lot of pressure on our roads and public transport network, and this will really help us judge the scale of the issue and determine what we might be able to do about it. The survey is online at www.southwark.gov.uk/schooltravel2020 Gill Kelly Empowering Communities Programme Officer East Central (Peckham and Nunhead) Working from home Mobile: 07949248558

At the end of the meeting what was the result. Going ahead or not? or more meetings

Twinned with Bellenden Village

Once in the same everywhere will never be removed. Southwark are legging over everyone seven ways to sunday.

I think Rupert james summed it up on the 17 page. People with little else to worry about.

Yes they were something else, Stained glass, polished brass and spotless with a man in his room who took no nonsense. A real joy to visit. In fact the toilets island in the 70/80 was a real meeting social hub when you went out for the night not for the reason that spring to mind today. What do we have today a silver tube on the pavement/park.

Work is already taking place on Bellenden. No notification at all but then why would we be told by the Cllr who remains out of sight. No doubt these works are the ones people fought against but are now being done under covid19. There was was in depth discussions on Bellenden even to the extent of using Dutch consultants which no body agreed with. So perfect chance to bang it in under some emergency rule. All under hand. Are we surprised, no if they can spend ?25,000.00+ on the Avondale Rise/Bellenden corner which was not required as it was already there but not enforced but as the instigators said it will look pretty when we have finished. Very soon you will not recognise the area as the very small but vocal mob will get their way without anyone knowing.