Atila Reincarnate

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So, essentially: > > No hit records = deserves a brick through window > and a visit from social services, burn in hell > Hit records = 'just a bit eccentric' - we'll > overlook it, rest in peace. I refer you back to my last post, which again you chose not to read. Keep up Bob FFS.

daizie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > wanna be startin sumthin Beat it!!

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just for you Matthew, courtesy of The Guardian... > > Fergie finally spends his ?80 million... > > http://static.guim.co.uk/Guardian/football/gallery > /2009/jun/24/1/WebbRiley-2648.jpg According to Rafa all refs are on Fergies payroll anyway, why's he wasting his money?

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hang on, Atila. > > On several other threads you're lambasted anyone > who uses background / adversity / upbringing as an > excuse for their dubious behaviour, but now - just > because he makes some music you like - you're > prepared to overlook everything? > > Massive double standards. > > This is someone who, were it not for the records, > you'd be booing on Jeremy Kyle. For your info I don't watch Jeremy Kyle, but you must do I guess. I don't overlook everything at all, sure he did some weird shit, but I loved the music. End of story, didn't say I approved of his weirdness by the way, or did you choose to ignore that part. FFS!

Despite his obvious eccentricities, probably due to the fact that hid dad treated him very badly and physically and menatlly abused him, he was a musical great, I loved his music both as a solo artist and with the J5. May your god go with you Michael, at least now he can get some peace.

REsearch into what makes a top class footballer is clearly very valuable and groundbreaking, especially when it comes up with words of wisdom such as these taken from this mornings Metro. The key to becoming a top class fotballer is not training but talent, it has been found. Physical conditioning had little to do with pitch performance when a group of semi professioanl football players were put through "skill" tests by scientists. "Plenty of people are as tall as Ronaldo and, if they are in good condition, can run as fast and jump as high - but are not necessarily as good at football", said a spokesman for the university of Queensland which carried out the research. Well fcuk me ragged, no shit sherlock? You mean you have to have talent to be a top footballer, well what happened with Robbie Savage, Emile Heskey, and Titus Bramble, how did they slip through the net?

Annasfield Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How funny is this? > > Apparently, Madrid sent some representatives to > negotiate over Alonso and Arbeloa at the end of > last week. They offered a straight deal including > some of the Dutch contingent (Van der Vaart and > Sneijder), then they offered Gago, and then they > offered Negredo. Each time, Rafa asked what values > Madrid were placing on these players and finally > burst into incredulous laughter. "Remind me - who > beat whom by five goals to nil in the Champions > League? he tells the now flustered Madrid > negotiators. "Only it must be us who lost, because > my players, whom you are wanting to take away, are > worth nothing, whereas yours, whom you are trying > to discard, each seem to have higher values". And > the negotiations ended there and then! > > Source - the Rattle. Gotta love Rafa B :)-D if this is true, then it's quality of the highest order. Fair play to Rafa.

In fairness to Owen, a player I've always had a great deal of time for, I'm not sure his departure from Pool is as straight forward as suggested by Matthew123. For what it's worth I'd have him on a pay as you play basis, I think he's still got something to offer.

It was inevitable that Ronaldo would follow Kaka to Real Madrid. Everbody knows that a Brazilian is followed by an irritating c**t.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > To pay respect to Atila, who is carrying offence > like a rucksack, I was only trying to point out > that majority doesn't confer quality of thought... And I agree, please re read my post. As for carrying offence around like a rucksak, why is it that when anyone has the audacity to challenge a view on this Forum they get accussed of taking offence too easily? The pompous attitude taken by yourslef suggesting that the general piblic can't be trusted to make decisons or to have a view of worth is what really troubles me more than anything. It suggests that the author of such statements has an intellecect and thought process far superior to anybody else. That's my problem. AS for the Elgin Marbles, sure give them back. But where do you draw the line. The British museum, and many other museums throughout the globe, would soon empty out if we take this view.

david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Canberra? Shit, I thought it was Melbourne! > > Look, Brendan, you know what I'm getting at so > don't obfuscate with semantics. You know as well > as I do the dangers of following the herd > mentality that Atila is advocating. Whilst I'm not > suggesting there should be some intellectual elite > that governs a society's moral compass it is silly > to suggest we should have the opposite. Who said I'm advocating the herd mentality? I'm simply asking why the general publics view can't be trusted if it flies in the face of your or anybody elses view. And I did say, just in case you didn't bother to read my post in full, that while majority rule is what modern society is based on, it doesn't mean the majority view is always right. I just don't like the superior tone of the original posting which seemed to suggest that the rest of shouldn't be allowed a view or an opinion, how dangerous is that? Wasn't there a nasty litlle man called Adolf who used to think like that.

david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just to briefly address AR's point - if the > majority of respondents in a poll thought Sydney > was the capital of Australia, would that make it > so? Ergo, just because your view may be more > commonplace doesn't necessarily make it the > correct one. > > As for the marbles, I'm with Michael P on page1. > They're ours. Mitts off. And the Egyptians can't > have any of their stuff back either. Frankly that's a rubbish response, and quite frankly childish. My point is that to say that general public can't be trusted, and remember you are one of this number, is very patronising, and reminds me of my old school masters constantly telling us they knew best.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Erm regarding the real world... yes AfN > > A Mori poll in 1998 found only 39% of the British > public in favour of returning the Elgin Marbles. > So that'll be a minority then. > > Mind you, the general public also believe in > capital punishment, so they're not particularly to > be trusted. > I've just picked up on your comment and would like to ask an honest question. Are you saying that because the general public believe in capital punishment, and presumably you don't, they can't be trusted because their view doesn't square with your own? So presumably then, any majority view that flies in the face of your beliefs should be viewed with suspicion and even mistrust? I thought majority rule was what modern society was based on, doesn't make it right, but hey ho.

I'd have Owen at our place on a freebie, his record since leaving Real hasn't been great but if he's fit I think he's got something to give. And while at Real he did do too badly did he, even if he did start mostly on the bench.

matthew123 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sandperson I'm not sure this argument is relevant > to football or football banter... just my thoughts It isn't, and can you imagine the stick I would have got if I'd have thrown in something as random as this.

Sandperson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's a statement of fact AG. Nothing more, nothing > less. Am I supposed to be frightened? > > The Republic of Cyprus which was invaded by Turkey > (with the support of the US) in 1973 after > Archbishop Makarios III faffed around over Enosis > for too long and Greek military junta decided to > try and force the issue is geographically only 37% > Turkish Cypriot the majority of the rest being > Greek Cypriot. The population breaks down to > around 77% Greek, 18% Turkish and 5% 'other'. Come off it SP, frightened of what? I simply said be careful where and when you say such things, that's not a threat, I'm simply telling you that people, on both sides of the divide, are very touchy about this issue. How is that a threat? My god aren't you the sensitive one.

Sandperson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mostly Greek Cypriots though. I'm touched that you have taken the time to study the history of the island, it's politics and its' socio/demographic amke up. Will we being seeing you mastermind with your specialist subject being "Cyprus & the Wests refusal to recognise the Turkish Cypriot Adminisitration"?

Sandperson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Matt, it seems to me that more often than not you > and the Arsenal bloke come on here just to have a > jibe. I give you a taste of your own medicine and > you get all worthy. Posting photo shopped pictures > of Wayne Rooney was a response to which "go about > Liverpool" exactly? That along with most of the > poisonous, childish, playground bile that you > spout was just a cheap shot. As for you almost > never having a weak argument, I nearly spat my > coffee out, get over yourself. > > And if you look at the population and geographical > distribution of the island of Cyprus (actually a > republic in it's own right) it's predominantly > Greek, so my statement is factually correct. If I were you I'd be careful where and when you say things like this, I don't give a monkeys as I was born here but I think you'll find a lot of Turkish Cypriots might take a very strong dislike to your words. If these words aren't meant to try and incite anger and rage, then I don't what is. Your statement is far from accurate whatever slant you put on it and could be viewed and designed to stir up racial hatred.

Sandperson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm from Rugby AG not Coventry. You're from some > Greek island and support a London team, right? Dreadfully sorry to disappoint my old Rugby chum, born and bred in London, grew up in North London, and moved to Sarf London in the early 60's. Oh and by the way, just to educate you old boy, Cyprus is an island inhabitated by Turkish & Greek Cypriots.

Sandperson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I can't remember who you are? Remind me again? > Spurs fan, right? > > You don't wind me up AG, I feel sorry for you, > that's your role in my life. Awwwwww SP, I didn't know you cared. As for being a Spurs fan it could be worse, I could wake up one morning thinking I've woken after a bad dream only to find that I come from Coventry but support Man Ure.

Hang on, I thought you said adios to the forum! I'm glad you are still around SP it means I've got someone to wind up on a regular basis

I used to be a regular in the Clock for over 20 years until the present landlord took over, what a tool he is. Peter and Frances Key ran the place for many a year and had two sons Toby and Miles, both arrogant as feck. Frances thought she was lady muck and Peter was always maoning about how little money he made from the pub game but managed to buy and house in Chichester a boat and seemed to be on holiday every other week. The place used to have agreat atmosphere in spite of mine host being up himself and I spent many a new years eve/day drinking and carousing until 4 or 5 in the morning. I was at the leaving do for Peter and fRances and saw many punters who had been banished to the Herne and the like and hadn't been seen for many a year and haven't been seen in there since.

Sandperson Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No more Carlos at OT. It's a shame but time to > ring the changes with the (now) ?100M or so to > spend. I'm sure the Scousers will make more of it > than it deserves but he is easily replaceable and > a bit more youth would be a great way to go. > > We also need another Argie otherwise we'll have no > reason to chant "Argentina"! :)) What about Heinze or Veron, they'd feel right at home at Traford Industrial Park.

matthew123 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Love this quote from Torres: > > ?The white shirt of Madrid is very famous and for > a lot of players their goal is to one day play for > Madrid. The white shirt is a huge privilege for > players, but for me the biggest privilege in > Europe is the red shirt of Liverpool." This is the sort of qoute that brings a smile to my face, how many high profile players have made similar statements over the years only to move on shortly afterwards. Loyalty from players? Lets be honest/realistic, it doesn't exist.

Black cab drivers, who sincerely do believe that they own the road and that the highway code doesn't apply to them. GRRRRR