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karter Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > yep but without the dickie bow. :) Sorry dearest, accidentally posted a pic of my ex... of course, here you are... http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/James_Bond-2008-classic.jpg

karter Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ...it also transforms > down into a speedboat when needed, and it's > probably the swankiest invention on the island. Karter! It really IS you! http://trcs.wikispaces.com/file/view/James-Bond.jpg/41141999/James-Bond.jpg

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ...I think the point about expensive > finance/credit is largely down to education. > Partly to live within your means, and partly not > to get taken in by high interest finance such as > "payday loans" at 2000% APR. Whilst you do have a point Jeremy, this is very easy to say. Many people who fall prey to these types of loans genuinely believe at the time that they will eventually be able to pay them back. I know, I worked on debt cases at various CABs across London for years...some of the cases I dealt with were genuinely heartbreaking. In any event, current statistics on debt show that the average owed by every UK adult is around ?30,306 (including mortgages). Does that mean then that us more fortunate types should cut up our credit cards or sell off our mortgaged properties to move into rented accommodation? I agree with Moos, more should be done to help those with little to begin with. Unlike the more affluent looking to access finance, the destitute have limited options at their disposal.

Testing testing... http://altered-states.net/barry/update220/Genius-choice.jpg Well! That was easy!! I only needed PGC's instructions...didn't need to go any further...must be getting cleverer... I'm absolutely elated! Thank you Nashoi. Brain now size of a broad bean. *goes off in search of new mischief*

Thank you nashoi- I shall go and experiment. Don't go away though - you'd be amazed at just how incredibly dense I can be with regard to technology. *rushes off to have a play around*

Well, having now mastered how to do the "blue text thing" and having a ball with it, I would now like to progress to the next level. So, can any of you lovely computer geeks please advise me how to (and this is really advanced stuff) place a picture within a post...i.e. not a link or an attachment, but the actual pic. (Does that make sense?). I would only ask that you be so kind as to take the following into account. 1. thick as three planks 2. brain size of (large) pea 3. ability to process only the most basic/simplest of instructions. Thanking you in advance. *awaits excitedly*

The forum is being taken over by Woof. *calls Pest Control*

Or maybe one of these: (let's hope it doesn't come to that though)...

In which case Admin will definitely need one of these: Woof what are you doing there...get off

And "he" has an assistant: http://www.petmatsil.com/files/1902370/uploaded/Affenpinscher%20dog.jpg

Ooooh... *visualises Admin. pulling their hair out*

(My apologies if this post now appears a little out of place - this is my first chance of responding since yesterday - but I really do wish to respond to ????'s earlier post). ???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Perfectly good" would be over the top but I > believe the old system was helping 'mobility' and > therefore equality of opportunity more than the > one that replaced it. There is indeed evidence to suggest that the pre-comprehensive system increased social mobility. However, this increase is relatively insignificant and therefore any advantage is massively outweighed by the disadvantages. For example, the system indirectly discriminated against children from poor/working class backgrounds in that relatively few got in; those in the lower streams were often written off; the public's general perception was that grammar schools were the best and by implication therefore anyone who attended anything but was considered as having failed; curriculum too narrow (tended to concentrate on classical subjects such as Latin, Greek, Hebrew etc.); and the system was not conducive to proper social integration. > Of course it was based more > on mobility than equality which seems to annoy > those who would advocate equality. But the two are inextricably intertwined. >Inspite of the > more equal=happier mantra, the most equal > societies have also been among the most murderous > and sapping of human dignity and spirit of any > produced in history....happy places? It would be churlish to deny that under a regime where there are no class distinctions that an element of equality exists: the majority have access to work, earn sufficient to survive on, are fed, housed, clothed and receive healthcare etc. However, that benefit gets virtually wiped out when examining the bigger picture which a Communist regime presents.

Crikey! Did not expect ???? to leave. ???? - please come back. OK, in common with other posters, I don't agree with all of your views. But that doesn't mean that we don't appreciate your input...alternative views are what make this room - as without them there would be no debate and hence no Drawing Room. This area is for serious discussion...and your posts have heated things up. That's good for debate isn't it? I remember heating things up a little in this room on the Organics thread whereupon I promptly had the likes of Mockney and Huguenot (no disrespect intended here Mockney/Huguenot) telling me how wrong I was. But I was buggared if I was going to capitulate! Not on your nelly! We are all entitled to have our say, but if we choose to have that say, we should not be surprised when others then have theirs. It may feel as though you have been pelted with rotten tomatoes in the stocks - but you haven't. You've been disagreed with, that's all. I shall return to your post some time later tonight. I only hope you will be here to read it.

wunderland Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Do the forum drinks still happen ? Yes they do...and they are good fun (well, I think so). Click here for more info.

plucked (you are forgiven KidKruger - twas a minor typo I suspect...I was just being pedantic...you are usually very good at this game...your posts can be quite a challenge to my pea-brain at times:)))

Woofy, I am proud of you...good doggie...I think your actions were in order...I was far less restrained when I witnessed a man knocking his small child to the ground some years ago (but...ahem...the less said about that the better). However, I am slightly disappointed with you in one respect...driving in Central London were you? Hmmmm, I'm not so impressed now.

Narnia Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Messi goal last w/end > > One of the best you are likely to see. Enjoy! Now that did remind me of George Best! Fabulous!

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ...until those that > preach 'equality' without thinking got hold of > it?.... Eh? You've lost me ????. What exactly are you saying here? (Seriously, I don't understand). Are you saying that we had a perfectly good system of education until some busybodies decided to make it comprehensive in the name of equality?

*prods KidKruger re spelling* loadsafilthylucre (what's good for KK is good for me!)

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > More than 24 hours before that one was spotted. > > Quids must be past his best. As am I! Too old and too tired!

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mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Education to produced a better, more competitive, > more entrprenurial and more engaged populace, > ultimately is the only way to move towards a > fairer and more equitable society. > It really is 'education, education, education'. If > only he'd meant it. MP I couldn't agree more. A quality education is crucial for a more equal and thus fairer society. The massive role which education plays in determining an individual?s position in the employment market means that it is probably one of the most important factors in achieving equality.

Here is an excerpt from the latest British Social Attitudes Survey. It shows the public as being much less interested in reducing inequality than previously.