Wow andystar what a good story, in every workplace there is a weird toilet issue of some sort! My desk used to be next to the toilet and one of my excolleagues was on the lighterlife liquid diet thing and he'd spend a minimum of 2 hours a day splattering the loo and sighing very loudly and giggling at whatever reading material he had chosen. He never took any of our hints, we'd hide the loo roll, turn the radio on loud when he went in, shut the door really loudly but nothing would change his habits until he was forced to resign for never doing any work. There was a toilet one floor up with no desks anywhere near it. SeanMG I don't generally walk past where you mention but it sounds very annoying. At least you get a snapshot into the lives of the mystery bin-bag peoples lives! The term pavement oysters is making me feel a bit ming.