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Strange that other reports are recent on link, yes Rendall I can't see any other reports. Very confusing.

http://www.capitalfm.com/london/radio/news/local/one-dead-double-shooting-east-dulwich/

Loesn't work where I've quoted your post sally but link on your original post futher back on this thread works.

Sorry Sally pressed post by mistake. There is a huge crisis in social housing especially in London, this is getting worse. Citizens advice is inundated with people in fear of being evicted, many due to changes in benefits, universal credit being another policy adding to this.

Sally Eva Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > there's a lot more discussion including action by > the councillor in this thread > > http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5 > ,1855002

Hi Sally i am confused by your post. The earlier link you posted says this man has already been through the system and struggled to keep conditions of stay. Are you saying if for whatever reason you are not given help after going through the system, you can go to a charitable hostel but it will be "full of drunks and mentally ill", where there is no conditions of stay. Are you also saying Southark Council does not use any organisations on referal outside of council run, St Mungos handed a petion to goverment on the 10th October calling for a review to homeless policies. One, its policy to cap housing benefit for supported housing tenants at local housing rate. Here is a link. https://www.mungos.org/get-involved/campaign-for-change/save-hostels-rebuild-lives/

How sad Gaynor. Although I can understand why criterias may be needed, I feel it is usually charities or non govermental organisations who try to break that systematic way of helping, which often cannot see the complexity of peoples life, sticking to procedure may work fixing mechanics, but can be very disconnecting on both sides when working with people.

Sally I was aware it was Canada, the reality of being given a council house in London immediately without going through the homeless temporaryj housing, if you should be so lucky, is extremely unlikely.Many hostels, rehabs have condituons which include no alcohol.drugs etc. I put up the link as it shows not only looking at the issue of homelessness but action that recognises a bigger picture and what seems ti me a more understanding way. Gaynor sorry to hear about your hubbys car and glad no one was hurt, who knows maybe your caring was paid back to you. All the best and hope your insurance sorts it out quick.

Can homeless people who have problems drugs, alcohol etc are expected to somehow resolve there issues in exchange for shelter. It is easy to see why conditional housing does not often work for some people. Heres an interestin article of removing these conditions. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-36092852. Editrd to say signing the lease and paying the rent is a problem in itself of course.

Looks like someones dropped a bit of wood for a bonfire.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-london-41679498/youths-set-off-fireworks-in-bus-and-shops-in-islington It's dangerous behaviour.

Robbin I would appreciate any figures with comparisons, you have read elsewhere. thanks.

Clinical severity for the season to date, as measured through the proportion of patients admitted directly to ICU, and deaths attributed to pneumonia or influenza, is low to moderate. The proportion of patients admitted directly to ICU has been on the lower range reported in recent years. There have been a number of reported deaths due to influenza and pneumonia and the majority have been in the elderly, which is consistent with a season predominated by influenza A(H3N2). To date, based on antigenic characterisation of circulating influenza viruses, the seasonal influenza vaccines appear to be a moderate to good match for circulating virus strains, depending on the strain. Vaccine effectiveness estimates, which provide an indication of how well the vaccine provides protection against influenza, will not be completed until the end of the influenza season. from link I posted above, sorry edited to add this.

http://www.health.gov.au/flureport This is a recent surveillance report on Australias Flu. I cannot see anything that different from previous years apart from a lower intale of patients into ICU. It feels to me that the reporting on this killer flu has ignored important facts eg rapid testing. And now we have group discounts for the vaccine. I noticed one chemist offering free vitamins with the jab. Scare tactics has always been a powerful tool.

I think the Australian strain is influenze A h3, could be wrong, its not clear. Nor are the statistics with no figures for last year. I found this doctors article interesting. http://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2017-09-28/flu-epidemic-your-questions-answered/8992884

http://www.health.gov.au/flureport The high levels of confirmed flu in Australia have been recognised after "an introduction of rapid testing have contributed in part to this increase"

Hi Robbin, did the chemist advise you to have the quad vaccine. Was the tri vaccine also beinv administered, I'm curious to know if there is a different criteria for the triple one other than the price. The quad is ?14 on this link. https://www.well.co.uk/our-health-services/wellbeing-services/flu-jab-service/

https://www.statnews.com/2017/01/27/flu-vaccine-health-care-workers/ This is a link looking at British research on the flu vaccine,believed to be flawed, from healthcare workers some who are against this vaccine being mandatory but do not have the choice.

lavender27 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is the jab a "one size fits all" . Does anyone > know much about the injection ie quantity, how > it's made, what's in it etc etc etc., https://patient.info/doctor/influenza-vaccination

Thanks JLr, I think the Cochrane review says quite a lot. I have not looked at there vaccine reviews for a long time, but i have found it a fair review in the past.link anout them. http://ctb.ku.edu/en/databases-best-practices I do not take my decision lightly JLR nor do i take any information given to the public lightly as i said above, its for people to see for themselves. Enjoy the weekend.

DL I am not just pulling links from internet. I have looked at this systen for nearly 40 years. For me the connections to the links are simple, I do not expect others to see the same way as me, everyone will have there own views, i do not wish to confuse anyone. Looking at the vaccines has taken me to look at many things in that system. Just like your body, a part can be isolated , eg sore foot, to find what is wrong you may have to look at another connectio .looking at my health and childrens health, with consideration we are part of a community, I see a system that holds back the truth is corrupt and refuses to help give any understanding between there wright and wrong stance. I think people should come to there own conclusions. This link I am about to put up is a case I have been following for years, I have posted it on this forum in the past. It is regarding a case where Merck virologists whistleblowed. Diffrent systems intermingle with others, for some, making it so complex it is too much.Understandable we must put boundaries to make sense of things. Everyone has there own way of seeing things. I hope this helps you to see my connection, but your reality may just be different from mine. I do believe things are changing and people are and will continue to challenge our right for the truth. http://ahrp.org/former-merck-scientists-sue-merck-alleging-mmr-vaccine-efficacy-fraud/

http://www.bmj.com/content/358/bmj.j3334.full.print http://www.abpi.org.uk/our-work/disclosure/Pages/disclosure.aspx A few more links, that come into the picture for me. Sorry edited wrong link should have been this one. http://www.abpi.org.uk/media-centre/newsreleases/2017/Pages/Pharmaceutical-Industry-Disclosure-UK-six-month-figures-show-increase-in-research-spend-and-lower-than-estimated-number-of.aspx

Cochrane systematic reviews a link about them. http://www.cochrane.org/what-is-cochrane-evidence There review on flu vaccines. http://www.cochrane.org/CD004879/ARI_vaccines-preventing-influenza-healthy-children

Jrj Do you have a link to any clinical studies on Live Attenuated Influenza Vaccines (LAIV). I have read the trials for the triple one (flumist I think) but not this one, I would appreciate that.