Brendan

It all sounds like way too much effort and I think vicks would string terribly.

All barmiads are called Maureen. Even if they are unaware of it themselves.

I liked this, "A national newspaper edited by an iconoclast determined to challenge the tyranny of the liberal metropolitan elite would have been a real addition to the national conversation, not least because Liddle's challenge would have come from the left."

Because sometimes you just feel you have to kick a dead horse: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/feb/19/rod-liddle-independent-editor

Been to the moon Bert says he has. All very hush, hush he says. On her Majesty?s business. Victoria that is, not this young upstart we have today. They had proper queens back in his day he assures you. He can speak for hours on the application of clockwork and steam in space travel. Says he learnt I all from the Russians. And all they gave him was a lousy car.

True. That essay says that the Dutch made the first ?documented discovery?.

He says, "Bill, I believe this is killing me." As the smile runs away from his face, "As I?m sure that I could be a movie star if I could get enough money together for those veneers and some liposuction."

Magpie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Brendan - where did you did I say the British case > was strongest because it was British? No you didn?t mean you specifically were saying so. Just that it seems to be implied in a lot of the conversations I hear people having about it.

John at the bar is a friend of yours.He gets you your drinks for free. He?s quick with a joke or to light up your smoke but there?s someplace that he?d rather be.

To be fair I don?t think Magpie is actually fanatical or jingoistic.

I agree with you that Britain?s claim is probably the strongest mostly because of the national identity of the inhabitants. I just don?t agree with the general sentiment that the British claim is the strongest because it?s British. I have no issue with supporting Britain in things it is just that as I am not British it is not my default ideological setting so I try to give credit where credit is due rather than seek virtue where it isn?t. (I do of course have my own default stances/prejudices on things that I am sometimes too quick to take without properly thinking about a subject) I don?t know enough about ?81 to have any real comments suffice to say that accusing people of insulting dead soldiers when they disagree on a political point is a contemptible attempt to bully opposing opinion and has been used all too much recently by the right wing here and in America. Wasn?t HK handed back in accordance to a contract?

It is also worth noting that a country?s sovereignty or claim to territory does not rely on whether Britain recognises it or not. I do however think that the will of the local inhabitants is the most important thing. Although the cynic in me does suspects that any large country could very quickly forget about a few thousand islanders who want to be part of it if their islands weren?t of some strategically advantage.

It seems to have then already been a point in contention though. According to PGC?s earlier link: ?On November 6 1820, 4 years after becoming independent, Argentina formally took possession of the islands through an expedition commanded by the American officer David Jewett. Upon arriving to the islands Jewett proclaims the Argentine sovereignty on them. This proclamation was published the following year on the papers ?El Redactor? (C?diz, Spain) and the ?Times? of London. No formal claim was done by any foreign government (Etchebarne Bullrich). In 1828, Argentina appoints her first Governor to the islands, Luis Vernet, who takes off to the islands to establish a colony. Once Governor Vernet was established there, one of the first things he does is to protect Argentina?s interests by trying to stop the foreign vessels which went there to poach sea lions.?

Middle aged!

I think there are avenues that can be explored to make such an event self funding. How wedded to the idea of clothing do you think the contestants will be?

I suppose it is not completely but almost entirely unlike the Scottish Nationalist claim to North Sea oil. Except most of the army is Scottish so if Britian went to war with them they?d get a proper kicking. EDIT: To avoid offending the Welsh

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Brendan, because when Briotain > recognised the newly formed Argentinian state it > recognised her territorial integrity and Argentina > was recognised to have to be in possession of them > when Britain reneged on that and took them again > in 1833. > I'm pretty sure that they'd have been happy to > lease them to us as a useful naval stopover, but > we just helped ourselves. Ah I see now. I was ignorant of the actual history but have now done some reading. Thanks for the link PGC. Briotain eh?

I?m just working this out from Huey?s dates. If Britain claimed the islands in 1766 and Argentina has only existed since 1816 how could Britain have stolen them from Argentina?

I assert that there is. It's actually a goddess. Her name is Desista and she is the mother of Agrivatus who is the god of annoying things that go on and on and on. If you appease Desista she will feed Agrivatus which will stop him annoying you. I?m sure some Pre Raphaelite or other painted them.

More importantly, is there a god of making things stop? There really should be.

I forgot, DIc HEd and Firkin

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My assumption would be (not that I'm stereotyping Irish cooking) similar to bubble but with shitloads of cream/milk/butter.

Seems mostly in english to me.

That's Brendan Dionysus-Dreyfus von Firkin Butt-Stevens to you madam.