Hi All, Last week my setpal box bought the farm, which was quite annoying as it was only 4 years old. (That's what I would refer to as "fairly new" by the way.) By mere fluke someone mentioned to me yesterday that the maker of this very same box (setpal), has been doing some twiddling, which makes the boxes not work anymore. End of story . Buy a new box. Apparantly this is affecting thousands of people, and can only be avoided if you haven't rescanned your channel line up. (Unlikely since you are given this option every time you switch on). I am gobsmacked! So if you have a setpal...be warned!