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Given the results, I hope it is Cameron. The less parties involved the better. Lab+LibDem+SDP will still fall short of a majority, so they will have to bargain with parties from Ulster and/or Wales. Tory/LibDem is the only way we'll get anything approaching a stable and effective government.
Even as a Lab supporter, Brown is not in a position to remain as PM, Cameron to form a minority government in the 'national interest', with Lab and Lib forming an effective opposition in respect to the economy and dealing with the deficit...any Con or Lab pacts with the Libs would stink of backroom deals...

I think that this is the only opportunity that the Lib Dems will get in the foreseeable future to reform an electoral system to ensure that the elected MPs reflect the views of the electorate.


Unless Lib Dems can achieve some kind of PR, they are dead as a political force, and they know it.


If Tories want a pact with Lib Dems they will have to move on that issue, and Cameron is understandably saying no way.

It's most interesting watching the tangled web reveal itself.



Clegg already said weeks ago that the moral authority to form a govt should be with whoever has the biggest vote - seats and popular, and has duly tipped his hat towards the Cons just now on the telly.


Mandy was out ten seconds after the exit poll last night saying there would 'have to be electoral reform'.


Tories would rather sit in a bath of piss than ruin their traditional electoral power base by way of reform.

At the end of the day, you are either blue or red.

This spells the end of the Liberal Democrats as a force in British politics. If they can't advance in these conditions, with a media fawning at them, then why will anyone in the future ever vote for them. If they do a deal with the Tories, which is looking increasingly likely, then the LibDems are ...toast.

Their party will split.

But to be fair, it's not been a great night for Labour. Maybe a period in opposition while the Tory/Lib Dem alliance falls apart may be its best bet to win the next election on October 28.

As for the Tories, if they can't win under these conditions, with a supine press, Ashcroft's billions, an unpopular leader of the Labour Party, well how will they win. Those are my early thoughts....but the British, they've always loved farce. It's been 30 years since Fawlty Towers. One last thought, what about Prime Minister Harman?

By my reckoning - in what turned-out to be a disappointing night for everyone - Labour ought to be feeling a little relieved and the Libs are still the ones with the most to gain..


It all depends if either Blue or Red are prepared to part their buttocks and take electoral reform up the gritter in return for Liberal support. Or if the Libs are prepared to insist on it..

i always felt that about Thatcher.... and was amazed that there were only a couple of attempts to bump her off

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dennis is looking really on the ball in this one....

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