New Chandelier Tea shop is open....

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Surely the CPT could be an upbeat Rovers Return?

[Keef]

Sweet!

[AnotherPaul]

Mrs Paul and her friend were asked to sit upstairs as they weren't eating even though the place wasn't all that busy.

As for the prices, I don't think tea and cakes are a good reason for re-mortgaging.

ap

[macroban]

> Oh dear, the backlash has begun. Nero

Or local people have reviewed their expenditure priorities and expectations of value for money in the light of the change in the economic climate.

[JoeChuff]

has anyone eaten full-on proper dinner there? i'm vaguely considering it as an anniversary venue...

NB I am not fussed about the service, i've found it fine there and am generally quite tolerant of "French" style service, just wondering about the food

[Incitatus]

Full menu starts this weekend

[Domitianus]

EllaBelle Wrote:

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> I just wanted to inform you of my latest

> experience at Chandelier. I have been a couple of

> times with other new mum friends and had a lovely

> time, but the last time has put me off going there

> for good.

>

> After arriving to an empty tea shop, we sat down

> at one of the many free tables. The owner lady

> sat at the back then called the manageress who

> approached us and asked us in a rude manner to

> move tables as we were "not allowed to sit on the

> upholstered chairs in case we made stains on

> them"!! Considering I had a baby (asleep), my

> friend had a 1 year old (well behaved and not

> eating, drinking or actually doing anything

> sinister), third adult had no children, plus all

> of us are not of boisterous natures, we were

> outraged. We were not planning a food fight.

>

> If their chairs are so precious, why do they put

> them out for everyone to sit on? Have they not

> heard about stain guard spray, or god forbid -

> covering them??? Not only that, but I shudder to

> think how much money mums on maternity leave have

> spent there during the day time. To find out this

> way that our money is not welcome there, has left

> a bitter taste in my mouth.

>

> Suffice to say that we promptly left said

> establishment, and I will not return to be

> insulted again.

EllaBelle, I fully understand your outrage and decision to boycott this establishment. In fact, I would encourage all other parents with babies and children to do the same. Let me repeat that, I would wholly and enthusiastically endorse the decision of you and your child-rearing friends not to take your children into Le Chandelier - under any circumstances - no matter what - even if tired and desperate for somewhere to put up your feet and have a cuppa. Stick to your principles girl. You show 'em!

[Bellenden Belle]

There was another thread on here about a mother getting thrown out for feeding her child food not purchased on the premises. It seems to have vanished .... am I mistaken - where is it now?

[DG]

It's Jacks cafe for me. Homemade cakes, good service, child friendly, and always plenty of change from a tenner, for two of us.

I was put off the Blue Mountain a few years ago by their poor service, and avoid the place now.

Le Chandelier sounds far too pricey!

[karter]

Dom

If you have such a problem with eating in Le Chandelier because of mums and kids running about then why dont you just go and have your tea and meal in the morrocan room thats located upstairs.

Its just simple really

[Domitianus]

I have a phobia about spiral staircases!

[DaveR]

Is it worse than your phobia about children (and, I seem to remember, your morbid fear of breast-feeding women)?

[Domitianus]

DaveR Wrote:

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> Is it worse than your phobia about children (and,

> I seem to remember, your morbid fear of

> breast-feeding women)?

Almost as bad as your apparent phobia about anyone who has an opinion outside your own narrow, uncritical, unimaginative, 'hand-me-down', PC agenda, and almost as bad as your apparent fear of anything that might suggest ED is not the Pleasantville/Stepford idyll that you seem to need to believe it to be. Does that answer your question?

[SeanMacGabhann]

unfortunately spiteful that post Domitianus wasn't it?

A fairly harmless reference to previous posts doesn't warrant an all-guns-blazing retort...

[DaveR]

Dom

don't try and dress this up as something profound, when all you really want is somewhere quiet to have a cup of tea and a cake

Stay at home

[Domitianus]

Hey, you were the one who had to dig up old threads that were long-since buried and start to imply that my opinions are based on some sort of irrational response rather than a difference in opinion. What do you expect me to say?

[Domitianus]

If your post was simply tongue-in-cheek then I apologise but I detected a barb in it and responded in kind.

[macroban]

There should be no worry about the spiral staircase.

It is extremely unlikely that an eating establishment would have one without full compliance with the regulations.

[Michael Palaeologus]

Its a posh caff - get a grip.

[Tazzi]

There are 2 valid sides to this story regarding dom and dave.You have 1 side a family man who wants to take his family out locally for food and social intercourse,and we have i presume a single guy or a guy whos dating who does not have kids,who equally wants to go out and have a drink/coffee/food with a friend,scenario of East Dulwich is that most eating places will have mums,dads and toddlers.It is nappy valley for a reason after all.Equally we have the guys with no kids who want some time with no kids around them,both sets have equal rights to go out.One should not say to the other stay at home,what right do they have to say that.

Last week i walked in then out of 3 places in East Dulwich because i did not want to spend my well deserved time surrounded by breastfeeding mums,why should i,its my right to do what i want.I have no problem with breastfeeding mums but i can think of better ways to spend my time.

Please do not retaliate,i am merely expressing a point,its my time i do what i want.

[SeanMacGabhann]

and what you appear to want is to play with the font controls available...

Kids can get on my wick big time but the sort of thing:

is:

a) exaggerated

b) pompous

3) pointless

"it's my right" my a... foot. get over yourself.

As has been pointed out many a time - this particular place has an upstairs without any "nappy valley" infection. Both sides happy.. 'kay???

I don't want kids but I'm beginning to think I'll have some JUST to hack some people off...

[Ganapati]

oh wow I don't think I've ever read such an annoyed post from you Sean.

[SeanMacGabhann]

sorry Ganapati... sometimes I need to vent.

One of the reasons I was attracted to this forum (rather than, say.... the lordshiplane.co.uk one ) was the relative absence of professional moaners. That's not a slight on that particular site, but it permits anonymous postings so.. you know...

Lady MacGabhann is far more used to it (my rantings) than most people on here but I can let fly when the occasion calls ;-)

You're lovely tho (tu)

[Marmora Man]

This subject (the "rights" of childless versus "rights" of those with children) is in danger of becoming as boring as th "middle class trendies" taking over good old working class ED and / or "fings ain't wot they used to be.

Get real - everyone has a choice. The variety of restuarants, bars, pubs and clubs in ED is such that all tastes are catered for. If you don't like the company go elsewhere - but don't criticise other parts of the community for being part of the community.

[DaveR]

There may be a genuinely interesting debate to be had about how demographic changes within a relatively small and well-defined community can result in some sections of the community feeling disenfranchised - particularly when shops and services appear to focus their attentions on one group to the apparent exclusion of the tastes of others. LL may well now be far less welcoming place for the childless (or indeed the elderly or those with low incomes) than it was say 10 years ago.

I say it may be interesting.......

My 'stay at home' comment was solely because it appears that Domitianus' unfortunate combination of sensitivities rules out both the ground and upper floors of Le Chandelier - but he is, of course, free to take his tea wherever he pleases.