ED Barber - homophobia? racism? and a bad haircut

[Sue]

Bic Basher Wrote:

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> Can this thread be lounged again? It's become

> even more ridiculous than the original post.

The original post was not ridiculous.

[JohnL]

rendelharris Wrote:

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>

> Paris is one of the most amusing places for this -

> having been brought up for a few years on the

> continent my French is reasonably good, it's

> always fun to listen for a bit to waiters being

> rude about the English tourists then start

> speaking to them in French...though nothing on

> earth will puncture the arrogance of a Parisian

> waiter!

But if this Wiki is true they have to speak french

by law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_policy_in_France

Being rude is just the Paris thing :)

[edcam]

What was ridiculous about the original post, BicBasher? This barber seems like a dick and I'm glad of the warning.

[Bic Basher]

edcam Wrote:

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> What was ridiculous about the original post,

> BicBasher? This barber seems like a dick and I'm

> glad of the warning.

We've had anecdotal evidence and no real proof that it's pandemic across the board. I've visited Mem's elsewhere where they've been perfectly fine and I'm not exactly an alpha male.

It's another one of those daft EDF threads that goes off on a tangent which turns into yet another xenophobic rant over nothing. At least in The Lounge, the banality can continue.

If the OP has a genuine issue with the business, he should complain to the owner directly.

[Jah Lush]

Dear Basher,

This thread has grown legs and silly ones at that. I agree with your assertion that this thread is headed for The Lounge where it deserves to rot like a corpse.

[pop9770]

Lounge it yea (because closing down the conversation is always a "solution")

This thread reminds me of this comment

"Liberals & socialists want to shutdown Trump they're acting like he is going to kill gays,make slavery legal again and take away women's rights...

Like he's a Muslim or something.."

It's a mad world .. offensive on so many levels ..

[Jim1234]

Bic Basher Wrote:

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> If the OP has a genuine issue with the business,

> he should complain to the owner directly.

I did this and haven't heard back. However I also wanted to warn others of what happened and get feedback as to how to take things forward, hence this post.

I too am confused by the way this thread went, mind. I'm amazed by how rude, hateful and argumentative people are online. I'm sure these same people would never speak to each other this way in real life.

[Jah Lush]

pop9770 Wrote:

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> Lounge it yea (because closing down the

> conversation is always a "solution")

Lounging it doesn't close down the conversation. Just moves it to a different area of the forum.

[Administrator]

And on that note I shall move this to the Lounge.

There is an excellent BBC Seriously podcast entitled No Platform http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04gsbgy (or look up Seriously on your podcast app). There is an especially interesting bit about 40 mins in about vindictive protectionism, where some people have the attitude that "I'm on the side of the virtuous but can't generally let out my dark side therefore I'm going to look out for someone who's not and lay into them, because I can, especially on line" and also people who look out for things to be offended by, almost a competitive virtuousness.

[Jim1234]

-- moved topic --

[pop9770]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Lounging it doesn't close down the conversation.

> Just moves it to a different area of the forum.

Yes that's true I stand corrected.

Administrator Wrote:

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> There is an excellent BBC Seriously podcast

> entitled No Platform

> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04gsbgy (or look

> up Seriously on your podcast app). There is an

> especially interesting bit about 40 mins in about

> vindictive protectionism, where some people have

> the attitude that "I'm on the side of the virtuous

> but can't generally let out my dark side therefore

> I'm going to look out for someone who's not and

> lay into them, because I can, especially on line"

> and also people who look out for things to be

> offended by, almost a competitive virtuousness.

Excellent Thank You

[JohnL]

pop9770 Wrote:

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> "Liberals & socialists want to shutdown Trump

> they're acting like he is going to kill gays,make

> slavery legal again and take away women's

> rights...

Nah, That's Pence - don't any of you touch Trump :)

[steveo]

Swimming slightly against the tide this morning I popped into Mems for a trim. The chaps seemed to be having a row about whether to use bleach on the back step or not but I couldn't detect any casual racism or homophobia and they are eight quid cheaper than next door

[JohnL]

As long as it wasn't your hair they were talking about.

[DulwichFox]

I would love to go in and test the water.. But am now torn between a haircut and letting it grow..

Foxy

[steveo]

'Bleach 'im innit.'

[pop9770]

Blimey :(

"bleach on the back step"

is that like "bleaching the back door/s" ?

haha

or am I getting all confused

hilarious

Fox sounds like the perfect place for you,,, if want to get you back step bleached ;)

[Mick Mac]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> I would love to go in and test the water.. But am

> now torn between a haircut and letting it grow..

>

> Foxy

Let it grow....

Let it grow....

(sing to tune)

[Jah Lush]

You mean that Eric Clapton song, don't you?

That coont never did apologise for his disgusting racist outburst in in '76.

[DulwichFox]

pop9770 Wrote:

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> Blimey :(

> "bleach on the back step"

> is that like "bleaching the back door/s" ?

> haha

> or am I getting all confused

> hilarious

>

>

> Fox sounds like the perfect place for you,,, if

> want to get you back step bleached ;)

Lutfen, Benim arka ad?msi kastarlayabiliyor musunuz (? = i with no dot. Not displayable on here.)

Please can you bleach my back step..

Is about as close as I can get.. not sure about the grammar.

Foxy

[Seabag]

Devem bir diş fır?ası arıyor, annesi paketi koymayı unuttu. O korkun? bir anne. Bir g?n onu yiyeceğiz.

With a flat bread of course.

[DulwichFox]

Went to Mems Barbers today..

There were two barbers working today...

There was no loud conversation between them but much polite conversation between the barbers and their customers.

My barber was new. (been there 3 weeks) but I believe he had come from one of their other 3 shops.

He was from Algeria and a very pleasant soft spoken fella. He spent 20-25 mins on my hair with close attention to detail.

I got a great haircut to my requirements and was charged ?8.00. Usual cost for a scissor cut ?14.00.

But I'm of that certain age. Gave him a Tenner and he was happy..

Maybe there have been changes (due to complaints) ??? but I can only give praise to this place.

Nice comfortable leather sofas. TV with sound turned down/off.

Would personally recommend Mems..

DulwichFox

[malumbu]

1. Complain to the place. They may have thought it harmless. You and most people think otherwise. By getting feedback they will learn and change. You did complain. Good stuff. There are times that I didn't and regret it.

2. Limit your details (bit late) as this makes people, including me, make facetious comments

3. Understand that whilst we have moved on, this is still seen as 'banter' by many who don't even think that they are being offensive. Just take a few black cab rides and drivers often make assumptions that you will agree with their rabid views (not all cabbies have rabid views by the way).

I shudder when looking back on what I thought funny 30 years ago (again not supposed to be offensive)

I shudder looking at some of what was considered progressive comedy from the 80s.

I shudder at the 'lads culture' from the 90s promulgated by bands such as Oasis (literally get your tits out for the lads)

I shudder at the thought of what Brexit will lead to in terms of equality etc and that rrrrrss over the pond

I'm proud of the positive changes that I have seen in my lifetime, and hope the point above doesn't materialise. We are all better than that. Let's finish on a positive note!

[Alan Medic]

Did you have a haircut?

[Mick Mac]

malumbu Wrote:

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(not all cabbies have rabid views by the

way)

Yes, cos' that would be cabbist.