Waitrose or M&S TYPE supermarket - do we want one on LL?

[edcam]

Keef Wrote:

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> Actually, the people that live near the plough

> (which I repeat, is nowhere near either END)

> probably shop in the sainsbury's, Val's, or go up

> to the forest hill sainsbury's.

Thank you - that is my point. The people from the station end don't really need to go to the Plough end as they have DKH Sainsbury's, Co-Op, Iceland and all the independent shops. And I describe that as "the other end" because anything further towards Forest Hill is mainly served by Forest Hill. A Waitrose/M&S would have a different impact in either place, as they are, in effect separate places.

[James Barber]

Hi Silverfox,

Lunch times are the times my colleagues pop out for sandwiches which they generally eat while working.

Mean while I use this as the opportunity to dash on my bike to Tooley Street - my day job is a 5min cycle ride away - to hold those meetings that phone calls and emails can't quite replace. One day I'll wean council officers onto conference calls.

[Keef]

As an aside, don't you just love the name Tooley Street.

[LadyDeliah]

I don't know why everyone hates the Co-op. I went in there for cat food, brown bread and a couple of ready meals for lunch at work and I just left with exactly those things at 8:30pm.

[Applespider]

Keef Wrote:

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> Especially given that the plough isn't actually

> anywhere near either end, but more or less in the

> middle. Why not put it on Lordship Lane opposite

> the Harvester, that would annoy a few people in

> the low lands.

While I accept that none of us NEED a Waitrose, that location would make me very happy. Pity that all the shops there are fairly small and occupied...

[kels]

i'm not sure this forum is representative. Can you not take a vote or consultation in a broader more representative context?

[coopsy76]

I know alot of people that live at the "Peckham End" that shop at Vals, Sainsburys local, and the butchers near the Plough on a regular basis.

It aint that far.

[Huguenot]

You can't take a vote on every decision. It's unworkable.

We vote every few years to elect those individuals we want to make these kind of decisions on our behalf. As part of that they may seek some consultation where practical.

In that sense they feedback tells James exactly what he needs to hear: that views are polarised, that it's likely to be a contentious proposal, and that there are serious concerns about the impact on other retailers.

A formal consultation will tell him nothing different: a 51% vote in favour is still a 'no' vote because that's the nature of politics.

This forum is an ideal place to seek those opinions, because as a public forum it attracts opinion formers: those people who will sway public opinion.

Regardless of Iceland and the Coop, if there would be one massive benefit to LL, it would be to tear down those awful bloody buildings they're in...

[Gibbo]

Absolutely yes please

[thebestnameshavegone]

Huguenot Wrote:

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> You can't take a vote on every decision. It's

> unworkable.

>

> We vote every few years to elect those individuals

> we want to make these kind of decisions on our

> behalf. As part of that they may seek some

> consultation where practical.

>

> In that sense they feedback tells James exactly

> what he needs to hear: that views are polarised,

> that it's likely to be a contentious proposal, and

> that there are serious concerns about the impact

> on other retailers.

>

> A formal consultation will tell him nothing

> different: a 51% vote in favour is still a 'no'

> vote because that's the nature of politics.

>

> This forum is an ideal place to seek those

> opinions, because as a public forum it attracts

> opinion formers: those people who will sway public

> opinion.

That's such nonsense though. Imagine having your neighbourhood?s appearance or opinions represented shaped by a sharp-elbowed, time-rich, computer-owning, bickering elite.

Whatever generalisation you make above, that?s just unacceptable and wrong.

[Keef]

So do you look at yourself, and every user of this forum as part of this sharp elbowed elite, or are you different?

[thebestnameshavegone]

Regardless of what anyone's part of, a small clique of people making/influencing decisions that affect the entire area on an internet forum is ridiculous. As is a councillor pitching questions to them as if they do.

I'm sure this forum would also vote for a Miele showroom if you asked them.

[zeban]

What's a miele showroom?

[thebestnameshavegone]

Posh hoovers.

[DulwichFox]

zeban Wrote:

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> What's a miele showroom?

Here is a Miele Showroom

[zeban]

Oh I see. I'm quite happy with my Henry though thanks!

[Keef]

But this forum is viewed by thousands of people, so that is like doing a huge mail out. I don't think a little group of forum users are agreeing a stance between themselves and trying to influence anything.

[sledge]

Yes please!

[mon]

Yes, yes, yes - an alternative to Sainsbury's in the area would be a welcome change, and especially one offering great quality products which are different.

[silverfox]

James, coming back to your re-edited OP - it must be 60-40 in favour of a M&S/Waitrose now

[plimsoul]

they're damn fine hoovers miele, worth the investment. had ours over 10 years and as good as the day it was purchased.

i have no problem with waitrose or M&S arriving in east dulwich. rather them than another estate agent...

[VALFR59]

YES please!!

we have a lack of a good high level of food supermarket and items like M&S in the area...We have to go to Lewisham or Greenwich to retire food order to M&S when you organise a cocktail..not great

I would prefer a M&S and one less Sainsburry in ED...

or put a M&S in Dulwich village! (nothing really shop here to buy food )

Thanks

[jimmyay]

VALFR59 Wrote:

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> > or put a M&S in Dulwich village! (nothing really

> shop here to buy food )

>

> Thanks

Oh no, then you'd get those dreadful aspirational people from East Dulwich flocking over to us!

[Narnia]

VALFR59 Wrote:

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> YES please!!

>

> we have a lack of a good high level of food

> supermarket and items like M&S in the area...We

> have to go to Lewisham or Greenwich to retire food

> order to M&S when you organise a cocktail..not

> great

> I would prefer a M&S and one less Sainsburry in

> ED...

> or put a M&S in Dulwich village! (nothing really

> shop here to buy food )

>

> Thanks

Apart from 'yes please' what does the rest of the post mean? It reads like gibberish to me.

[Twirly]

Narnia Wrote:

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> VALFR59 Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > YES please!!

> >

> > we have a lack of a good high level of food

> > supermarket and items like M&S in the area...We

> > have to go to Lewisham or Greenwich to retire

> food

> > order to M&S when you organise a cocktail..not

> > great

> > I would prefer a M&S and one less Sainsburry in

> > ED...

> > or put a M&S in Dulwich village! (nothing

> really

> > shop here to buy food )

> >

> > Thanks

>

> Apart from 'yes please' what does the rest of the

> post mean? It reads like gibberish to me.

Am glad that it wasn't just me. Particularly confused about the "We have to go to Lewisham or Greenwich to retire food". When I "retire food" it just goes in the bin! :))