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No idea whether Scribe is genuine as it's an odd topic for a forum where even dear old Waitrose gets people spitting with anger...


Personally I couldn't kill anything bigger than a medium-sized spider without getting upset, but I don't have a problem with the idea of hunting game as long as the motivation is the larder rather than trophies or bloodlust.


As another fomer bumpkin, I have noticed that those who kill their own meat generally respect it more and eat (and waste) a lot less of it than those who buy it from supermarkets.


Not sure about the crossbow idea but I'm not an expert. However, it's hard not to agree that civilisations whose philosophy requires them to live in harmony with nature would consider it an ethical way to go about things. I also know some vegetarians who make an exception for meat killed this way as the animal will have had a natural life and death.


And now I'm going into hiding.



I'm entirely "genuine", Ms B. If my OP went along the lines of 'hi, I like to shoot large game with a crossbow whilst leaning out of a helicopter', then I could forgive people for thinking I was leading them up the garden path, which in this case, I'm not.


But thank you for you refreshing, not to mention rational, reply.

Scribe Wrote:

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> But if it's any

> consolation, I bagged eight wood pigeons on Sunday

> morning.


Now you're talking Scribe.

http://www.countrylife.co.uk/imageBank/cache/w/Wood_Pigeon1.jpg_e_706a70bb04fc6a7e74fd2f041989ff57.jpg

With the game-shooting season behind us, the March wood pigeon offers challenging sport. The flocks are big, easily spooked and supremely difficult to decoy, but worth the effort, especially to protect the work of our farmers.


Whether you get your birds through a bit of crop protection or from the butcher or game dealer, they deserve to be treated as the delicacies they are in the kitchen. As with many of our wild species, pigeons should be eaten pink to enjoy the fullest flavour.


Ingredients


1 pigeon per person

100g butter, softened

100g bitter chocolate

100g juniper berries


Method


Pluck and dress the bird for roasting whole and rub butter into the skin, then roast for about eight minutes at 200˚C. Leave to rest and then carve off the breasts.


The carcasses will make the basis of a good sauce, flavoured with bitter chocolate and juniper berries. Serve the pigeon in sauce with cabbage and bacon.


Any spare (?)

Miss b if killing a spider upsets you I hope you didn't see the Human planet the other week on BBC1. It showed some young kids who lived in the jungle who went out and hunted, killed and ate giant tarantulas.

And all they used was a thin branch. They actually cooked them on a spit and ate them whole!

Ms B Wrote:

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I also know some

> vegetarians who make an exception for meat killed

> this way as the animal will have had a natural

> life and death.

>

> And now I'm going into hiding.



Natuarl death? Being hunted and killed with a bow and arrow or shot is as natural as say being hunted down by a "natural" predator in the wild?

If someone is hungry and wants to eat then yes....it is a simple case of hungry predator and prey. Every civilisation and tribe has evolved like this. Even today....when you buy that meat at the supermarket...someone has to rear and kill it for you. What's the difference really? (bar humane vs inhumane methods of slaughter and animal rearing).

Scribe Wrote:

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> I'm not "spouting rubbish". I'm commenting on a

> subject that the majority who've contributed to

> this thread seem to think is out-dated and cruel,

> which it patently isn't. And I have ignored this

> thread up until now, but Annette Curtain felt it

> necessary to resurect it, not I.

>

> And I'm not being "hideously rude", either. I'm

> replying in kind, you oaf. For instance, if

> someone 'flipped you the bird', as it were (like

> you have done with your childish emoticon), would

> you smile back or offer them your seat? I think

> not.



Actually hideously rude is being generous!



Yes. Just like any other animal, mankind is, and always will be, a predator in the food chain. We just have more means of killing at our disposal.




Would you care to add some evidence that would go towards backing-up that so-far baseless assertion, Santerme?

DJKillaQueen Wrote:

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> If someone is hungry and wants to eat then

> yes....it is a simple case of hungry predator and

> prey. Every civilisation and tribe has evolved

> like this.


You can't be that hungry to eat if you have to get on an aeroplane and fly somewhere abroad to kills things. I suppose you could get a Big Plate Breakfast at Garfunkels whilst you check your bow and arrow into oversized luggage - just to tide you over.


Anyway - must stop now. I have to lick a toxic frog and spend an hour staring at the moon in a catatonic state in honour of my ancestors - before my Ocado delivery arrives.



When I plan a hunting trip abroad, I don't do so because my stomach is rumbling. I do so because I wish to harvest game for consumption in an ethical fashion. And I have to go abroad because I choose to hunt said game with a bow and arrow, as hunting any animal with a bow in the UK is, regrettably, illegal.


Now, you can (predictably, in your case) sneer and mock all you like, *Bob*; but you can't escape the fact that people all over the world still, where permisable, hunt game with a bow and arrow to feed themselves. And they will continue to do so in the foreseeable future. Your so-far worthless, irrelevant and willfully evasive contributions to this thread suggests that you object to reality, *Bob*.

Scribe Wrote:

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> >

> Yes. Just like any other animal, mankind is, and

> always will be, a predator in the food chain. We

> just have more means of killing at our disposal.

>

>

>

> Would you care to add some evidence that would go

> towards backing-up that so-far baseless assertion,

> Santerme?



I don't know, I think it would feel like feeding whatever strange motivation you have for starting such a bizarre thread.



Although you've - desperately - adjusted what you've quoted another user on, displaying an attitude like that only strengthens the opinion that you're either stupid or willfully delusional. Hunting, or more genericaly, the harvesting of edible meat, is essential towards ensuring our survival. Next you'll probably tell me that breathing is a bit too much effort in this day and age.

Scribe Wrote:

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> Hunting, or more genericaly, the harvesting of

> edible meat, is essential towards ensuring our

> survival.


You can't spend your whole life in the cellar, surrounded by tins of baked beans and soup, desperately awaiting the arrival of The Bomb. It may never come.

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