Le Chardon sold

[Mick Mac]

Pricing here:

http://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/29f57a_9c26c4b830e94834a89c957ff8db206d.pdf

[HelBel65]

Looks nice but a bit outdated to charge extra for GF. So many places offer GF options for free these days. That would put me off (on behalf of my coeliac friends!)

[Louisa]

A flan slice with a side salad, best part of a tenner. Bargain.

Louisa.

[DulwichFox]

Memsaab

Tandoori Mixed Grill.

Tandoori Chicken..Lamb Chops.. Chicken Tikka.. Lamb Tikka.. King Prawn.. & Sheek Kebab.

Served with Large Salad and a Whole Nann bread.

This is a Sizzler dish.

?9.95 all in.

Foxy

[Ron70]

As ever, if you think it's too expensive, don't go.

If everyone thinks the same, it'll fail.

If they don't, it won't.

Maybe give them a chance, at least they're trying to be productive / positive, unlike the usual moaners on this forum!

So predictable

[Louisa]

Good deal Foxy. Still not been, but very tempted now.

I'd walk away from that feeling full and I'd happily wash it down with a nice glass of vino.

And it isn't complaining to expect a decent price for a local eatery. A flan for me isn't necessarily a sit down and eat experience, it's more of a lunchtime snack with a cup of tea in the garden.

Ill be sticking to my Ayres cheese flan slice, but that's my choice!

Louisa.

[HelBel65]

I wasn't complaining about the prices per se, it all looks reasonable to me, more the concept of charging extra for certain dietary requirements. It's just a bit old fashioned now. Even Dominos will do a gf pizza for free these days!

ETA by free, I mean for no extra charge obvs!

[DulwichFox]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Good deal Foxy. Still not been, but very tempted

> now.

>

> I'd walk away from that feeling full and I'd

> happily wash it down with a nice glass of vino.

>

> And it isn't complaining to expect a decent price

> for a local eatery. A flan for me isn't

> necessarily a sit down and eat experience, it's

> more of a lunchtime snack with a cup of tea in the

> garden.

>

> Ill be sticking to my Ayres cheese flan slice, but

> that's my choice!

>

> Louisa.

I washed down with a Large Cobra. and also got a complimentary Cointreau on ice.

Foxy.

[Louisa]

Out of interest Foxy is the cobra bottled or on tap? And how much for a pint?

Also, as part of the above deal, do you have the option to choose which type of naan you'd like?

Louisa.

[Sue]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Memsaab

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> Tandoori Mixed Grill.

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> Tandoori Chicken..Lamb Chops.. Chicken Tikka..

> Lamb Tikka.. King Prawn.. & Sheek Kebab.

> Served with Large Salad and a Whole Nann bread.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> This is a Sizzler dish.

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> ?9.95 all in.

>

> Foxy

Bleurgh.

ETA: The pictures not the description ....

[edcam]

Looks revolting!

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Memsaab

>

> Tandoori Mixed Grill.

>

> Tandoori Chicken..Lamb Chops.. Chicken Tikka..

> Lamb Tikka.. King Prawn.. & Sheek Kebab.

> Served with Large Salad and a Whole Nann bread.

>

>

>

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>

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>

> This is a Sizzler dish.

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> ?9.95 all in.

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> Foxy

[Jeremy]

I love curry too - especially a tandoori mixed grill - but let's be honest about what it is. Unhealthy food made with very poor quality meat. It's not what I want to eat every day (well it sort of is, but I don't).

Surely it's good to have a bit of choice. A quiche and salad makes for a good light(ish) lunch option, and ?8.75 is not a ridiculous price if it's freshly made.

[tbhoy]

Had two meals there. First time we asked for coffee at the end of the meal and they brought two black coffees and said they had no milk. I pointed out that the co-op opposite was open but they just couldn't be bothered. Second time I got food poisoning. Good riddance.

[Louisa]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> I love curry too - especially a tandoori mixed

> grill - but let's be honest about what it is.

> Unhealthy food made with very poor quality meat.

> It's not what I want to eat every day (well it

> sort of is, but I don't).

>

> Surely it's good to have a bit of choice. A quiche

> and salad makes for a good light(ish) lunch

> option, and ?8.75 is not a ridiculous price if

> it's freshly made.

Jeremy it depends on the size and quality. If it's a huge salad with lots of different things made in a unique and loving way, then I'm sure some would justify the price. But not everyone can afford to spend a tenner on lunch, some people are happy with a meal deal from the nearest supermarket.

Also, not all Indian restaurants use poor quality meat, and it's lazy to suggest they do.

Louisa.

[DulwichFox]

Sue Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

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> > Memsaab

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> > Tandoori Mixed Grill.

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> > Tandoori Chicken..Lamb Chops.. Chicken Tikka..

> > Lamb Tikka.. King Prawn.. & Sheek Kebab.

> > Served with Large Salad and a Whole Nann bread.

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> >

> >

> >

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> > This is a Sizzler dish.

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> > ?9.95 all in.

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> > Foxy

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> Bleurgh.

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> ETA: The pictures not the description ....

The pictures are poor. Taken on a windows phone in poor light. reduced / Compressed in Flickr

Then further reduced to fit on Forum Page.

Sorry. The food was remarkable and fresh.

Foxy.

[Louisa]

I don't understand why so many people on this forum have it in for our local Indian restaurants. They've served this community for decades, and we have such a lovely mixture of different places. It's sad that some people like to blanket condemn them purely for selfish reasons because they want some other arty farty expensive cuisine to take its place.

I think the end of Le Chardon has more to do with the arrival of a better French option in Bonne Bouef, than it does anything else.

Louisa.

[DulwichFox]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Out of interest Foxy is the cobra bottled or on

> tap? And how much for a pint?

>

> Also, as part of the above deal, do you have the

> option to choose which type of naan you'd like?

>

> Louisa.

The Cobra is Bottled. Drinks at Memsaab are not cheap. 650ml Cobra ?4.95 330ml ?3.95.

I believe there are some on tap.

The Naan was a plain Naan. and very good it was too. I seldom eat salad but do with Tandoori mixed grill.

The salad was very fresh and I actually enjoyed it.

Chicken Madras is ?5.95 as opposed to ?8.95 in Tandoori Nights .

Cobra in T.Nights is ?5.90 for 660ml

Foxy.

[Jeremy]

I honestly, genuinely do not understand your point Louisa. Yes there are plenty people who can't afford a ?10 lunch, I'm well aware of that. There are also people who can't afford to shop in your precious Ayres. There are people who can't afford kebabs, curries, and pints in the pub. There are people who can't afford (in more ways than one) to sit out in the garden drinking wine.

Is there an actual crux to your argument, because to me it just sounds like resentment towards any sort of change. It's not as if it's replacing a cheaper place.

Oh and I do not "have it in" for any local Indian restaurant, I like them but it's unhealthy food which is an occasional treat.

[DaveR]

"Tandoori Chicken..Lamb Chops.. Chicken Tikka, Lamb Tikka.. King Prawn.. & Sheek Kebab.

Served with Large Salad and a Whole Nann bread. ?9.95 all in."

Food cost of this dish is unlikely to be more than ?3, ?3.50 at the most. That means cheap meat (and even cheaper prawn). It's not a criticism, it's just a fact - that's how the restaurant business works.

I would expect food cost of a slice of quiche with salad to be a bit lower as a a percentage, but not that much, especially if they are using good quality eggs, cheese etc.

[DulwichFox]

Indian food is one of the healthiest diets there is.

Healthier than Fish & Chips... Pizza.. Chinese...

Mixed grill is not the best example but then it is not a truly Indian dish.

Indian Food with so many Vegetable dishes.. Dhals... and low GI chapattis

Can be eaten on a daily basis. You cannot say that for Fish and Chips.. Pizza.. Burgers... and the like.

Foxy.

[DulwichFox]

DaveR Wrote:

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> "Tandoori Chicken..Lamb Chops.. Chicken Tikka,

> Lamb Tikka.. King Prawn.. & Sheek Kebab.

> Served with Large Salad and a Whole Nann bread.

> ?9.95 all in."

>

> Food cost of this dish is unlikely to be more than

> ?3, ?3.50 at the most. That means cheap meat (and

> even cheaper prawn). It's not a criticism, it's

> just a fact - that's how the restaurant business

> works.

>

> I would expect food cost of a slice of quiche with

> salad to be a bit lower as a a percentage, but not

> that much, especially if they are using good

> quality eggs, cheese etc.

So you are assuming that Indian Restaurants are using Cheap poor quality food produce and

a place serving Quiche to be using good quality food produce.

I would challenge you to produce the mixed grill dish for ?3.50 even with cheap produce.

Have you been to Memsaab?

Yes. Fine. how was it. ?

No. Then Shut up about it (Polite version)

DulwichFox

[Jeremy]

I don't know why you have to be so defensive, Fox. I don't think anyone is slagging off Memsaab or anywhere else, just questioning the validity of your comparison. Most of us love a curry, but we also understand why the food is pretty cheap.

[Louisa]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> I honestly, genuinely do not understand your point

> Louisa. Yes there are plenty people who can't

> afford a ?10 lunch, I'm well aware of that. There

> are also people who can't afford to shop in your

> precious Ayres. There are people who can't afford

> kebabs, curries, and pints in the pub. There are

> people who can't afford (in more ways than one) to

> sit out in the garden drinking wine.

>

> Is there an actual crux to your argument, because

> to me it just sounds like resentment towards any

> sort of change. It's not as if it's replacing a

> cheaper place.

>

> Oh and I do not "have it in" for any local Indian

> restaurant, I like them but it's unhealthy food

> which is an occasional treat.

People who can't afford to shop in Ayres? And yet they can shop in the numerous expensive bakeries around here? Don't make me laugh Jeremy. And yes I do enjoy a bottle of 3 quid wine in the garden, is that a crime? Hardly a luxury. You know full well the crux of my argument and I'm disappointed you feel the need to even ask me. I'm simply suggesting that a flan with a salad for the best part of a tenner isn't my version of value for money, but as I've pointed out, it's also dependent on the ingredients used. Some may wish to spend THAT, I wouldn't personally.

As for the Indian restaurants, I wasn't digging you out per se, I was simply suggesting that in general most posters on here seem to take a dim view of the surrounding Indian restaurant options, even though they're their int indepdents which have lasted far longer than any of the fad places which come and go constantly. Think we should be more appreciative of them.

Louisa.

[Louisa]

The general assumption that Indian restaurants aren't healthy and serve up low quality meat and dish is just made up offensive rubbish. Some of the best meals I've had out have been in Indian restaurants and when you look at the prices they charge on average you'll know full well that such ingredients could never be obtained at wholesale price at such knock down bargain basement assumptions. It's just yet another underhand dig at local long standing businesses which are still going (much to the disarray and annoyance of some on here who would rather have overpriced posh nosh).

Louisa.

[nods]

The average price paid by Indian restaurants for chicken breast is between ? 2.95 to ?3.45 per kg. Meat ( the meat your get if ordering a meat bhonna for eg) would be around the ?6.50

King prawns are around ? 85.00 for 4.5kg.

To ask a restaurant where and how they source there produce is a legitimate question.

As for the prices make what you make of that.