Le Chardon sold

[Louisa]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> They are going to have to sell a lot of Tarts and

> Salads to pay the rent and rates at that place.

>

> Foxy

Exactly. I wish them the best of luck.

Louisa.

[Sue]

I expect they have done their sums :)

I'm sure they will do very well.

[Seabag]

Louisa Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

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> > They are going to have to sell a lot of Tarts

> and

> > Salads to pay the rent and rates at that place.

> >

> > Foxy

>

>

> Exactly. I wish them the best of luck.

>

> Louisa.

Even with your deliberate price smearing, I'm sure you do

Tell me, how much is flan/quiche at Ayres?

[Louisa]

Seabag Wrote:

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> > > They are going to have to sell a lot of Tarts

> > and

> > > Salads to pay the rent and rates at that

> place.

> > >

> > > Foxy

> >

> >

> > Exactly. I wish them the best of luck.

> >

> > Louisa.

>

>

>

> Even with your deliberate price smearing, I'm sure

> you do

>

> Tell me, how much is flan/quiche at Ayres?

I do genuinely wish them the best of luck. Maybe if you used a long established local business such as Ayres you could find out the pricing on such items as flans and quiches for yourself?

Louisa.

[JoeLeg]

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[Seabag]

Louisa Wrote:

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> > > > They are going to have to sell a lot of

> Tarts

> > > and

> > > > Salads to pay the rent and rates at that

> > place.

> > > >

> > > > Foxy

> > >

> > >

> > > Exactly. I wish them the best of luck.

> > >

> > > Louisa wrote:

> I do genuinely wish them the best of luck. Maybe

> if you used a long established local business such

> as Ayres you could find out the pricing on such

> items as flans and quiches for yourself?

>

> Louisa.

It's in fact not far of the genuine price of this gaff is it.

But that info would dilute your backstab at this new place.

And I've used Ayes when passing for 20 + years, only not for Flan as I don't like undercooked soggy pastry and industrial butter in mine.

You might like that kind of thing, but it's pretty low grade in my opinion.

That said, I'm not a massive flan/quiche/tart/filled pastry person.

[edhistory]

Seabag Wrote:

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> And I've used Ayes when passing for 20 + years,

> only not for Flan as I don't like undercooked

> soggy pastry and industrial butter in mine.

>

> You might like that kind of thing, but it's pretty

> low grade in my opinion.

>

How did you learn about "industrial butter".

[Seabag]

edhistory Wrote:

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> >

> > And I've used Ayes when passing for 20 + years,

> > only not for Flan as I don't like undercooked

> > soggy pastry and industrial butter in mine.

> >

> > You might like that kind of thing, but it's

> pretty

> > low grade in my opinion.

> >

>

> How did you learn about "industrial butter".

Google 'bakers butter alternatives'

[edhistory]

> Google 'bakers butter alternatives'

Are you saying, from evidence, that Ayres uses this ingredient and Tart does not?

[JoeLeg]

The difference between 'real' butter and the industrial stuff Seabag speaks of is noticeable.

Real butter is, however, noticeably more expensive (and getting more so as we speak). I kind of understand why someone like Ayres isn't using mountains of Lescure; it would certainly put the price of the flan up!

[edhistory]

That doesn't answer my question about whether the post was evidence based.

[tarteastdulwich]

Hi guys - I can step in and answer for Tart by sharing that we make all of our own pastry from scratch and use 100% real butter. While the prices of dairy are definitely rising, we've so far been able to absorb the cost internally without putting up prices.

Adam

[Sue]

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[Penguin68]

If it is, the owner is now, and probably was even then, in clear breach of the law. As the owner would be if not paying the minimum wage or not taking 'legal right to work status' details from the job applicant. At least one owner/ manager of a LL enterprise (now closed) was certainly in breach of the last 2 elements.

[edcam]

I've seen several non-white staff working in the place over the last few years, so this story sounds dubious at best.

[JoeLeg]

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> I've seen several non-white staff working in the

> place over the last few years, so this story

> sounds dubious at best.

Certainly wasn't dubious back then, I assure you. I'm obviously very happy if this is no longer the case, but my friend was left in no doubt as to the owners feelings at the time.

Times, and people, do change, hsppily.

[dds29]

Hi

I emailed them about the interior; they were charming, love the interior too and are going to keep it.

[edhistory]

> but my friend was left in no doubt as to the owners feelings at the time.

So it's hearsay.

[JoeLeg]

Ok, fine. It's hearsay to you.

Fine. Enjoy your day.

[edhistory]

It's derogatory hearsay from a long time ago.

[JoeLeg]

Well, if you're going to insist on anything posted on the EDF as being 100% backed up by provable facts then this will become a dull place.

I once posted a bunch of stuff told to me even earlier than that by soldiers who had served in N Ireland. Should that not have been posted?

While I'm happy to concede it was a long time ago, and that things have apparently changed, I stand by what I said. You are of course free to decry me and I can handle that, by I think it's a slippery slope to insist that anything posted be completely verifiable.

[edhistory]

So, what is you reason to besmirch a Nunhead baker?

[JoeLeg]

Oh my days...

I voiced an opinion, based on something I believe to be true.

You reasonably point out that it was a long time ago, and insist on absolute proof.

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa...

Now, that's two separate posts about Ayres that you have demanded 100% proof for. Seems to me like your quite defensive of them. Any particular reason for that?

[Seabag]

I get EDhistory's questions, not wanting to see accusations that are unfounded

Only when others post spurious "Flan for a tenner" type posts I don't see the same questions, oddly.

If Ayres (and others) aren't cutting costs by using butter substitutes I'd be very very suprised.

[Louisa]

Seabag Wrote:

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> I get EDhistory's questions, not wanting to see

> accusations that are unfounded

>

> Only when others post spurious "Flan for a tenner"

> type posts I don't see the same questions, oddly.

>

> If Ayres (and others) aren't cutting costs by

> using butter substitutes I'd be very very

> suprised.

I presume this is a dig at me. As ever, I am happy to be proven wrong, and I wish the new firm every success. What amazes me about some posters on here, is the utter contempt for long established and successful local businesses which have weathered various storms, and the eager anticipation at the arrival of something new. Why can't we be happy that these independent places are thriving here still, whether they've been here for 60 odd years, or are new additions to the neighbourhood?

Louisa.