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Very good game.


Here's a tale...


Before '88 drink driving was more than socially acceptable, it was considered a demonstration of social status. It was largely associated with chief executives in jaguars that could get away with it.


In rural areas it was an aspirational objective, and pubs even had breathalysers on which 19 year-olds in XR2s could test how pissed they were before they drove home. (They were installed by police on the basis that they would do the opposite).


In the next few years we had a concerted govt. campaign that demonstrated graphically the damage these guys did. Drink driving is now socially unacceptable. It may be difficult for people to envisage this unless they lived through it.


Advertising is a political hot-potato:


(1) In a libertarian society the booze firms are free to advertise at will, and the people have to learn the consequences (it clearly doesn't work).


(2) In a progressive liberal society the booze firms are free to advertise at will but we tax the bastards and spend it on govt. advertising to point out the bad side (seems to work).


(3) In a totalitarian society we prevent booze firms from advertising (see above from DJKQ).


You have to work out what policy you think is best.


DJKQ insists that I believe in (2) because it's my business. I don't. I believe in (2) because I think it's healthy. I believ in informed self-expression as a socialist ideal.


Current Conservative policy is (1)


And some idiots claim advertising doesn't work...

I do find scrolling through BARB numbers to be a tiresome task these days, it has to be said


I am finding it hard to continually persuade segments of the voracious consumers ,we call the UK, to take advantage of facile products that may indeed be of benefit.

Exposed? HAL9000 outed me months back, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube you know.


Advertising can't brainwash people, but it can elevate awareness, influence priorities and alter the ideas you associate with particular products or ideas.


For example, the Chelsea Tractor syndrome was created by reinforcing the belief in a certain group of people that looking good and demonstrating wealth was more important than caring for your environment, and that a Chelsea Tractor could achieve this for you.


There was no brainwashing involved, these customers already had big egos, big houses and big bank accounts and tiny penises. The advertising merely suggested that a big car would fit with their portfolio and make up for their shortcomings.


As for crap, just buy supermarket own-brands. They'll do a similar job, but you won't be very happy because you probably have negative associations with them.

Is the advertising industry populated by people who are worse than people who populate estate agents, the music industrty, publishing, finance, banking etc? I think there are scum bags in all professions and I'm not sure advertising is any worse than any other profession, if you can call it a profession.

Can someone start having a pop at the software developers please?

I'm feeling left out.


There are loads of cowboys in the industry, it's overpaid and both public and private sector waste billions on these self-serving scumbags, always with the 'i know best' and the 'lets use the latest technology so that you can effectively pay for reaaaally expensive on the job training for me that I'll take to the next dupe once the project inevitably fails/your company/government dept goes bust/gets axed'.


I mean, bastards, seriously.

And sometimes we they wear stupid animal hats, and trainers and stuff.

mockney piers Wrote:

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> I'm wondering if this was a very roundabout way

> for snorky to advertise the ipad2.

> Slimmer AND lighter?! Woo, I'm in!!!!


I dont know how I managed without A LIGHTER , SLIMMER way to post on tw@tter.


woot


this really out crap inventions like fire and the wheel in their place

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