DaveR Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 poverty mapHope this link worksMap of ED in 1898-9, colour-coded by household income - after recent 'gentrification', are we back at about the same mix? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1733-ed-on-victorian-poverty-map/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frisco Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Well, first of all Booth's maps were mostly based on external perception of wealth and poverty (state of curtains etc) or the views of members of the local constabulary, and how much litter (in those days bread) there was on a street.I can't find my copy of Booth's book today, but I recall that, while there was undoubtedly poverty in East Dulwich, as there was all over Victorian London, I recall that there was only one no-go slum area, which I seem to recall was to the left at the top of North Cross Road at the junction with Crystal Palace Road.Are we back with the same mix? Well that really depends how you measure poverty, but I don't think we are. The extremes are not as great as they were in the 19th century, and I think that's reflected in East Dulwich. Although I don't think the map of ED would have been untypical of most areas of suburban London at that time, were rich and poor often did live in relative close proximity to each other. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1733-ed-on-victorian-poverty-map/#findComment-48250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmlow Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Nice to see I am in the Red section! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1733-ed-on-victorian-poverty-map/#findComment-48252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frisco Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 "Nice to see I am in the Red section!"Are you over 109? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1733-ed-on-victorian-poverty-map/#findComment-48261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanmlow Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Yes. I am actually 111 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1733-ed-on-victorian-poverty-map/#findComment-48266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kford Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I'm pink. Possibly still correct. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1733-ed-on-victorian-poverty-map/#findComment-48310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadWorld74 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I love the fact that Rye Lane was populated by Middle class, wWell to do Londoners in 1898Ha! How things change!Where I live in ED is a pink area. Nice.Searched further East and saw that Bow was populated by the vicious semi criminal classes! The Victorians pulled no punches! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1733-ed-on-victorian-poverty-map/#findComment-48316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selma Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 It all went downhill because we did not get a tube! It is also fascinating to see how the area that is now Burgess Park was full of houses. Apparently it was a lovely place but was levelled during the blitz. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1733-ed-on-victorian-poverty-map/#findComment-48444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebedee Tring Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Nice to see that we are in the Red area. And, before any pedants come in with any sarky comments, I was born after WW2. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1733-ed-on-victorian-poverty-map/#findComment-48449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 He he, Yellow !! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1733-ed-on-victorian-poverty-map/#findComment-48461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macroban Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Thanks, DaveR.Seems to support my assertion on another thread:> However, I don't think that Dyos and the like can be applied to the specific area bounded by East Dulwich Road, Peckham Rye (Road), Barry Road and Lordship Lane. I understand that the small properties that dominate this area were specifically built for rental by the skilled working class, and low rank white collar managerial staff. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1733-ed-on-victorian-poverty-map/#findComment-48468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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