Football Focus

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I can't help liking Mourhino but feel he's had a lot of luck taking over at Chelsea right now, they look a team on the up (credit to Benitez) with the older lot a bit more realistic about how much they can play and the younger ones starting to build their own thang.

[Parkdrive]

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has been given the go ahead to move for Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney. Gunners chief executive Ivan Gazidis says the club can afford the England international

The above was taken from the BBC Football gossip site. I genuinely hope we don't go for Shrek, this is a man who was famously "once ablue, always a blue" and shafted his current club twice for a pay increase. You're best suited where you are son.

[El Pibe]

If you're hoping to avoid mercenaries in favour of dedicated club players in your football team, I fear you'll only be able to field a pub team full of Arsenal fans.

Arsene's a sharp fella, if the wage demands are too high, he'll say no.

[Parkdrive]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> If you're hoping to avoid mercenaries in favour of

> dedicated club players in your football team, I

> fear you'll only be able to field a pub team full

> of Arsenal fans.

>

> Arsene's a sharp fella, if the wage demands are

> too high, he'll say no.

Loyal players don't exist, and he is a prime example, he's shafted his current club twice, and why Fergie bowed to his last demand is beyond me. I hope we fcuk him right off.

[El Pibe]

I do get where you're coming from in general, but I think you might be a tad unfair on the lad.

a 16 year old kid says he wants to stay with the team he's supported since he was a boy, somehting he really still was.

Big club come in, who wouldn't say no?

THen he sees players who aren't as good as him earning tens of thousands a week a significant percentage more than him for doing the same job. Who among us hasn't had their nose put out of joint on a similar discovery in one's own work place or discovering a friend earns more than you for the same job.

Every normal person would seek a new job,and on finding this out an employer who values your contribution will negotiate higher pay.

This isn't shafting anyone, its absolutely normal practice in the normal world.

Football is no longer jumpers for goalposts, it's a business with professional workers.

I think you seek too high a standard of it's practictioners.

[red devil]

I think you've pretty much nailed it EP. This 'loyalty' thing is all a bit one-eyed. Also need to factor in that clubs only show loyalty when it suits them. Where is the loyalty to the 16 year old apprentices who gets kicked out for not making the grade? Where's the loyalty to players that are transfer listed and sold, or used as a makeweight in a big deal?

As for Rooney, he's still 'a Blue' in that he's an Everton supporter, and that won't change whoever he plays for. From the perspective of a football fan myself, I don't have a problem with that...

[Parkdrive]

My point is this, here is a guy that told United he wanted to move on because he didn't like the direction they were going in, and Fergie stood for it. Lets not forget the stars he's kicked into to touch for lesser crimes, and he stood still for his outrageous demands. That wasn't a good move for football or for the club, and he's doing it again. I certainly don't think he's the answer to our problems, he's got baggage and we don't need anymore. Plus if Wengers scouting network is as good as we're lead to belive I'm sure there are far more options out there without the baggage/expense.

[red devil]

My point is this, here is a guy that told United Arsenal he wanted to move on because he didn't like the direction they were going in...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/10099697/Laurent-Koscielny-warns-he-could-leave-if-Arsenal-fail-to-make-big-buys-this-summer.html

[maxxi]

In local news... Miwaww finally see sense and appoint an ex hammer to lead them B)

[SCSB79]

Cracking result for Scotland tonight - too little too late though.

[????]

A decent result for England Ukraine stuffing Montenegro

[woodrot]

our passage to Brazil is assured. as long as Belguim, Croatia and Serbia are excluded for match fixing or suchlike blates

[Parkdrive]

red devil Wrote:

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> My point is this, here is a guy that told United

> Arsenal he wanted to move on because he didn't

> like the direction they were going in...

>

> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/ar

> senal/10099697/Laurent-Koscielny-warns-he-could-le

> ave-if-Arsenal-fail-to-make-big-buys-this-summer.h

> tml

I can see you've really read this properly. FFS

[red devil]

Sorry, can't help you with that one...

[El Pibe]

so we won something then, if not the league or the predictions then this, cheer up maxxi http://www.givemesport.com/351968-manchester-united-relinquish-title-in-englishonly-scorers-league

[maxxi]

http://gmf.blob.core.windows.net/gmf/gms-cms-manual-images/will_haine_Prem-Table.png

:)

['bout now]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22928641

Bonkers, hilarious and very, very strange.

[red devil]

Ashley probably wanted to sack Pardew at the end of last season, but didn't want to pay 6 years compo.

So how does a chairman get rid of an unwanted manager?...enter Joe Kinnear :)

[StraferJack]

mere days before this whole madness is gone, surely?

people (Alan Brazil) hinting at JK's mental health but what about man who appointed him?

['bout now]

`yep, judging by his press conference the only deal has been done in his head.

`or has it.........

[red devil]

NUFC have confirmed that JK is the new DoF, and he will be Pardew's boss...over to you Pards

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22954309

['bout now]

Utterly gobsmacked.

[StraferJack]

"over to you pards"

"over you pards"

"over pards"

[Otta]

Kinnear and Ashley must be good mates, that is the only possible explanation surely! What with that and their loan shark shirt sponser, their fans must be wondering WTF is happening to their club.

[Jah Lush]

Andy Carroll having his medical at West Ham.