Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Construction work has begun on the new health centre at the site of the old Dulwich hospital.


The local NHS is now looking at services that will be provided in the new health centre.


The 8 to 8 (Extended Primary Care) Service offers extra GP and nurse appointments from 8am to 8pm seven days week. The service is available at two locations in Southwark; Lister Primary Care Centre in Peckham and Spa Medical Centre in Bermondsey.


The NHS are proposing that from 2020, the service for the south of the borough, now based at the Lister Primary Care Centre, relocates to the planned new Dulwich Health Centre.


The NHS wants to hear what our patients and stakeholders views are about this proposed move. If you are registered at a GP practice in south Southwark (Camberwell, Peckham, Dulwich or Nunhead), please complete this short survey -


https://www.engage.england.nhs.uk/survey/28a33015/


The deadline for completing the survey is 22 June 2018. If you require a paper copy, please call 020 7525 7888.

se22cat Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Thank you, have filled it out.

>

> The idea of being seen by a nurse rather than a

> doctor as asked in the survey is of concern.


I was recently offered an emergency appointment with the nurse practitioner for an acute condition at my GPs surgery and was very happy with the consultation and outcome

Slight biased as I asked for this.

Providing a service for the south of Southwark from the south of Southwark - the Lister is located in the middle - makes good sense.


I hope others will welcome the improvement in local GP services this represents.

Presumably being co located with SELDOC will also mean both services can cross support each other.


Hi BicBasher,

Lister is on 6 bus routes and 6 bus routes are very nearby to Dulwich Hospital. Lister has controlled parking and no parking for visitors. The Dulwich Hospital is currently not located in controlled parking but will have car parking for visitors. Lister is not near a train station but thE Dulwich centre will be.


hi se22cat,

I think they mean a nurse practitioner rather than nurse. Some practices offer paramedics, pharmacists, nurse practitioners as well as doctors. Even A&E use nurses for triage before access to doctors.

For aome reason I had thought this centre would continue to offer some hospital services and this would be based on local need. Will people be able to get blood tests etc.. as has been the case? What about physiotherapy and rehab? It sounds as though the function has moved on considerably from what was being stated a few years ago? Can anyone say what services will be on offer here?

>

> Hi BicBasher,

> Lister is on 6 bus routes and 6 bus routes are

> very nearby to Dulwich Hospital. Lister has

> controlled parking and no parking for visitors.

> The Dulwich Hospital is currently not located in

> controlled parking but will have car parking for

> visitors. Lister is not near a train station but

> thE Dulwich centre will be.


Of which only two stop outside the current hospital, which serve Peckham and Camberwell. The other 4 involve a walk either from East Dulwich Grove/Lordship Lane or Grove Vale/Melbourne Grove which largely serve East Dulwich. Not as great as having six direct bus routes outside the centre. This leaves disabled or older patients either having to wait for a 37 or 42 or slowly walk up the road.


While car access is welcomed, there will be a certain percentage who use public transport.

This asks 2 questions only (really) - have you ever been referred to the Lister and would you mind being seen by a nurse instead of a doctor? There are some 'how was it for you' questions if you have been referred to The Lister, but no probing questions to steer answers into useful areas (waiting times, cleanliness, ease of access, effect and so on). Most of the questionnaire is taken by demographics, but whilst it asks race and sexuality it doesn't ask age or any disability - both of which are relevant, I would have thought, to access issues, nor does it use any form of postcode check to see comparative proximity to The Lister or Dulwich Hospital. Or, in other words, it's a pretty useless questionnaire, designed to show consultation has taken place without really undertaking any meaningful information collection. If the NHS has actually pad a consultant to derive useful information for them, then they've been robbed! This is, at best, a weak PR exercise.

I don?t think the questionnaire is that bad, the ?how was it for you? questions give greater scope for a more detailed, nuanced answer than a question such as ?On a scale of 1 to 10, how clean did you find the facility? which gives no scope for the ?yes but ...? answer. Had I ever attended at Lister, I would welcome the opportunity of answering the more open ended questions.


Anyway, regardless of whether it?s a well designed questionnaire or not, or whether it?s a mere PR stunt, we should not lose site of the fact that within a couple of years (or so!), at last, there will be a brand new health facility in the area.

I don?t think the questionnaire is that bad, the ?how was it for you? questions give greater scope for a more detailed, nuanced answer than a question such as ?On a scale of 1 to 10, how clean did you find the facility? which gives no scope for the ?yes but ...? answer. Had I ever attended at Lister, I would welcome the opportunity of answering the more open ended questions.


Agreed that open-ended questions can elucidate a richer response - but please note (I speak as a former member of the MRS) (1) This is normally done in the context of a framework of more directed questions, either using a Likert scale (i.e. 1-5) or simple binary questions or other analysis context, and (2) proper data analysis of open ended questions, which, for a piece of quantitative research requires post coding (rather than pre-coding, this isn't about postcodes!) is difficult and expensive. I'm willing to bet that this group have neither the skill nor the money to use this information in any sensible way.


Without demographic information on e.g. age (although apparently my response will be analysed on the basis of whether I'm a lesbian or not) and particularly, in this context, disability this 'research' isn't frankly, worth a candle.


Nor is the self selecting nature of the research sample capable of supplying information of any statistical significance.


Not that there are any opposition councillors anymore, but someone should challenge the 'local NHS' if they make any claims whatsoever as a 'result' of this exercise - which I suspect has the clear fingerprints of those wanting to make these changes in Southwark come what may - which is all about re-use of public property within our bit of SE London. That may actually be just the NHS - but I have my doubts.

I would much rather be seen by a nurse (and many of them are specialist practitioners) who will have more time to listen, be caring, and give advice than a Dr who has 6 mins allocated appt time and is tired and stressed and rushed off their feet. A nurse will refer and ask for advice from a Dr if she/he is concerned.
  • 2 weeks later...

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • What was he doing on the stage at Glastonbury? Or on the stage at the other concert in Finsbury Park? Grinning like a Cheshire cat whilst pissed and stoned 20 somethings on the promise of free internet sung-- Oh Jeremy Corbyn---  What were his policies for Northern mining towns with no jobs or infrastructure? Free Internet and university places for youngsters. What were his other manifesto pledges? Why all the ambiguity over Brexit?  I didn't like Thatcher, Blair or May or Tony but I respected them as politicians because they stood by what they believed in. I respect all politicians across the board that stick to their principles. Corbyn didn't and its why he got  annihilated at the polls. A socialist, anti imperialist and anti capitalist that said he voted for an imperialist and pro capitalist cabal. He refused to say how he'd vote over and over again until the last knockings. He did so to appease the Islington elite and middle class students he was courting. The same people that were screaming that Brexit was racist. At the same time the EU were holding black and Asian immigrants in refugee camps overseas but not a word on that! Corbyn created and courted a student union protest movement that screamed at and shouted down anyone not on the left . They claimed Starmer and the centre right of labour were tories. He didn't get elected  because he, his movement and policies were unelectable, twice. He turned out not to have the convictions of his politics and died on his own sword.    Reform won't win an election. All the idiots that voted for them to keep out Labour actually enabled Labour. They'll be back voting tory next time.    Farage wouldn't be able to make his millions if he was in power. He's a very devious shyster but I very much doubt he'd actually want the responsibility that governance requires.
    • The purge of hard left members that were part of Corbyn's, Mcdonnel's and Lansmans momentum that purged the party of right wing and centrist members. That's politics. It's what Blair did to win, its what Starmer had to do to win. This country doesn't vote in extreme left or right governments. That's partly why Corbyn lost  We're pretty much a centrist bunch.  It doesn't make it false either. It's an opinion based on the voting patterns, demography and statistics. Can you explain then why former mining constituencies that despise the tories voted for them or abstained rather than vote for Corbyns Labour?  What is the truth then? But he never got elected!!! Why? He should have been binned off there and then. Why he was allowed to hang about is an outrage. I hold him party responsible for the shit show that we've had to endure since. 
    • Depends on what the Barista says doesnt it? There was no physical confrontation with the driver, OP thinks she is being targetted when she isnt. These guys work min wage under strict schedules so give them a break unless they damage your stuff
    • CPR Dave, attendance records are available on Southwark's website. Maggie Browning has attended 100% of meetings. Jon Hartley has attended 65%.
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...