Babies and prams in Pubs!

[JimmyMc1311]

Are any other adults getting a bit sick of pubs being filled to capacity with yummy mummies and their darling little offspring? I always grew up thinking that pubs were places where adults socialised but last Saturday afternoon in LL, 3 separate pubs (and also the lovely Rye!) were like an advertisement for Mothercare. Prams and buggies everywhere and toddlers running about as if they were in the playpark. So my message to the yummy mummies...if you are going to spend an afternoon in LL with your girlfriends drinking the pub out of chardonnay, please please please hire a babysitter!

[Horsebox]

Hmmmm, 2/10. It's a Friday,and given you have time to spend in the pub, you could have done much better than that.

[Horsebox]

But for the record, I quite like yummy mummies, or MILFs, as they're also known.

[standswithfist]

bit of a generalistion JimmyMc1311 - I can't stand Chardonnay personally!!

[foxyarchie]

What you're saying then is that parents with kids cannot go and spend their money in pubs that serve food and would probably not exist without the custom of these families. These pubs on lordship lane are very glad to have the custom and actively encourage business from Mums/families. After all if you hadn't noticed there are a fair few kids in dulwich! If you want to avoid kids and Mums go find a proper boozer that doesn't cater for the people you are trying to avoid.

[Pickle]

Generally I steer clear of the chardonnay too, much better to down shots of the hard stuff when in pubs with your kids, makes the whole experience way less stressful as a parent ;-)

Sorry JimmyMc1311, this is a topic that's been done over and over and over again. There are some pubs that don't welcome children (Clockhouse is one, I'm sure there are others - can't imagine there being many toddlers in Adventure Bar), might be best to stick to those ones if you're doing daytime drinking in the area?

Probably best to blame the pubs rather than the parents - but it's sensible business planning on their part to welcome families as it means more money across the bar (and food sales too).

[ratty]

Don't come out tomorrow. It's my birthday and there are fooking tons of us. At least 10 prams! Plus about 15 other kids!

[peckhamasbestos]

I grew up in a world of freezing pub gardens and bottles of coke with straws when I was a kid. Sitting outside whatever the weather.

made me the (bitter) man I am today!

I like the inclusive nature of ED pubs

[tallulah71]

The OP never said he was in the pub today. Lots of people drink in the day on a Saturday...

I enjoyed being in the pub garden as a child - The Grove Tavern mainly. Beats being left in the car with the dog, a bottle of coke and plain crisps.

[foxtailandfern]

I do wonder how yummy mummies would ever survive without their husbands credit cards, so you have to feel sorry for them really.

[peckhamasbestos]

i had the car experience too, so did mrs asbestos.

you know what, I like it when there are kids in pubs - makes it more continental

i like to take mine out on the odd occasion too!

[dmr]

I never thought of myself as yummy in anyway. Isn't it wonderful that just by becoming a mum and choosing to look after my child (the audacity!) I turn into a yummy mummy? and aparently I also get a husband and a bottomless credit card! If only I knew that 10 years ago!

[northlondoner]

Sorry, I love kids but the OP is right. It's just plain annoying having hordes of kids charging about a pub when you just want a nice time with your mates. Not so bad at lunch time I suppose but later on , it really gets irksome . Makes it feel like mcdonalds. Almost makes you wish for the pre smoking ban days.

[Gimme]

Is anyone else getting annoyed by drunk people in pubs? They have no right to be there. Unpleasant, smelly, nonsense talking drunks. Horrible. I used to enjoy going to pubs but now they are cluttered up with drunk people.

[Mick Mac]

Where is Jimmy now?

Have the yummie mummies tracked him down?

Poor Jimmy. He was a nice lad.

[KidKruger]

The attitude towards alcohol in UK tends more towards it being a tool for getting drunk, rather than a liquid to complement a meal or conversation - it's the reason for being out. Because of that in my view pubs are not where kids should be - this is not 'the continent' and kids running around a pub here does not create a 'continental feel'.

Alcohol changes behaviour and some of these behaviours kids could do without experiencing until they get to college years.

Apart from visits to for meals, I am against children in pubs, not for purposes of my own comfort but out of care for the little ones.

Its' dissapointing to see how far parents will go to defend their 'right' to carry on their alcohol consumption with their children in tow. It doesn't matter what's legal. It's plain wrong taking this drug and involving kids. Alcoholism in UK is massive, to the point where the understanding of what an alcoholic is, is underestimated. If you've been an alcoholic before having kids then you'll be one after they're born.

Dress it up how you like, but please, spare the kids.

[jennyh]

Me and my 'yummy mummy' friends often go to pubs during the day because they are quiet and have lots of space. Other than a few people sitting in the window of the Bishop, the entire back section is empty so what is the problem with customers being there, eating a bit, drinking a bit, feeding their kids etc. Mums and dads also have social lives you see and the weekend means getting together with family and friends or should all kids be confined to the home, the park etc? I understand your issue if it was the night-time and agree that often it is not the right environment for children but an afternoon is surely not so bad, if that fed up you could try getting there earlier and leaving no space for the kids to arrive later on.

I have to admit that I find it irritating going to the pub in the middle of the afternoon and finding I cant have an audible chat because there are so many spirited men having enthusiastic conversations with all manner of back-slapping and rowdy cheering. I would never dream of saying that they shouldnt be there as a pub is a pub, anyone can go and it all adds to the variety!

[ali2007]

Can I assume that all those who object to kids being in pubs don't have children themselves? I get berated enough by my childless friends for not being able to hang-out more, now it seems I'll hack off everyone else that's in the pub for coming out. Truly the problem here is that our culture revolves around going 'to the pub'.

Btw Yummy Mummy = offensive

[Alan Medic]

Is that definition offensive? If so,why?

[pommie]

i dont think there is anything wrong with kids/prams in pubs as long as the parents keep control of the children

[tiger ranks]

I put a thread up about this until i had my son and now that i have a child it is an another alternative for us parents (most of who do work) to go and have a catch up chat with other parents i do understand that they are noisy and disturb your afternoon whilst you are enjoying your beer which we do appligise for but it is a part of modern life and it is something that JIMMYMC1311 will have to gwt used to if you dont like it well try the british legion on barry road no kids in there or the castle or even the CPT

another way to look at it is in this hard time it is extra revenue for these pubs to make a little extra cash

dont hate us parents for socialising in and around your pubs

[ad2000]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Is that definition offensive? If so,why?

Yummy mummy is a slang term used in the United Kingdom to describe young, attractive and wealthy mothers.

I'm in a bit of a pickle - I am old, ugly and poor. Can I still take me kids to the boozer?

[edcam]

Kids shouldn't be in pubs. The garden maybe, as long as they're quiet.

[craigy]

Right, it's saturday afternoon and I am off to the pub. I have my bugaboo, my very energetic 4 year old and my just walking 1 year old who is still very unsteady.. And of course I have my husbands credit card in the back pocket.. And I am 'yummy' so all boxes checked other than the fact I am a beer drinker rather than Chardonnay, really haven't been able to stomach wine since pregnancy!

[tallulah71]

how awful for you!! Hopefully you'll get the thirst for wine back again once your 1 yr old becomes more steady as you continue to drink more beer. The Bishop has a really long run where he/she can practise walking.

Always thought 'energetic 4 year olds' preferred adventure playgrounds.