fabfor Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 jb1000 Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Also, I would encourage everyone to complain here.> > > http://www.heathrowairport.com/noise/help/make-an-> enquiry> > It's important, your complaints count, this> experiment cannot be allowed to become working> practiceThanks jb1000. I've filled in the complaint form and left contact details for them to respond directly. This is outrageous!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-590839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggie Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 have complained Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-590913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I am a very light sleeper but since I got a box of fluorescent pink and yellow ear plugs I have had undisturbed sleep. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-591040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldwiser Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Fascinating tool that webtrak - I had a shot at establishing some kind of pattern. For instance, weekends always seem to be tremendously busy with one flight every minute all day long. Certain days during the week seem to have almost nothing.. sometimes afternoons are very busy, sometimes not. Does Heathrow share the pain around or is it a wind direction thing? Anyone have some insight into this? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-591395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ianc Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 "uncleglen", I have a box of the very same garish yellow/pink earplugs, and they do indeed work miracles. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-591461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckhampam Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 What is the name of the earplugs pkease??? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-591494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl0wer Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Thanks for posting links but I think the 'submit complaint' facility run by Heathrow Airport is designed so someone can only complain about one day at a time. It's been comforting to read how the low flying Big Growlers that come in every a.m. so early, are regarded as a nuisance by all the rest of you, but now I see this has been going on for days, weeks, and months!After living here a few months I've adapted by starting my night's rest earlier. I know I will never get used to that early plane noise and if I wake around midnight I've learnt to appreciate deliberately the beautiful absence of aircraft, as one way of returning to the sleep I know can't last much beyond 4.30 a.m. Is anyone planning to log in and complain every single day? If you are, and feel that the sheer quantity of daily complainers is a force with which Heathrow must reckon - please write about it here, so that other correspondents on this Forum can co-operate. One complainer who emails them every single day won't be as powerful as many voices, because it's easier for that individual to get labelled a 'nutter' in the recipient's office. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-591539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medley Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I complain every time it happens to me (like this morning), although I'm over in Honor Oak Park and get woken up later (typically 6.30). I complain via the http://webtrak.bksv.com/lhr site - and they have responded saying we've logged your complaints under the following numbers etc. I take the point about labelled a nutter, but don't feel there's much else I can do. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-591602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianc Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 peckhampam, the earplugs I'm using are "Laser Lite". Just Google for "laser lite earplugs" and you'll find loads of buying options :-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-591607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I'm a 'Quies' man, myself. Great 'plug. The only thing about wearing earplugs is that you kind-of get addicted to them - and if you run-out you're liable to get woken-up by the sound of a mouse farting two doors down. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-591611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliecharlie Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/file.php?5,file=68602it's all because the first flights coming into Heathrow start stacking at 4.30 over our area as they are not allowed to land till 5.00 so they are circling and circling until they get the go ahead to finally land!see map attached Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-591696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medley Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I'm no expert, but landing into the wind is the done thing, and the wind is 70% from the west, i.e. 70% of the time the planes head east (over ED etc) into it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-591765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 There was an interesting programme on Radio 4 this morning - about 9am - about how Heathrow came to be sited where it was, prevailing winds etc. and how that now means the planes in and out of Heathrow fly over heavily populated areas (ie in this case, us).I didn't hear all the programme as I had to get up (blush). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-591773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigyboy71 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 charliecharlie Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/file.php?5> ,file=68602> > it's all because the first flights coming into> Heathrow start stacking at 4.30 over our area as> they are not allowed to land till 5.00 so they are> circling and circling until they get the go ahead> to finally land!> > see map attachedWhy can't they just circle over the English channel or North sea instead!?!?!? Pesky planes. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-591841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT76 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 The counter argument: it's not a new phenomenon; it's a function of living in an international city with all the trade and jobs that opens up for everyone living in London; aircraft noise is voluble across the entire of South London along the path of the Thames given most flights land from that direction; it's much worse the closer you get to Heathrow (i know how much worse Clapham is for example). Perhaps a little perspective is in order - ED is hardly Hounslow is it? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-591862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I get tinnitus. It's really loud - under conversation but above cats meowing.JT76 offers really good advice, you've got to chill out about it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-592386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl0wer Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Lovely and peaceful here this morning, thanks to fog. Heathrow News item today: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/nov/15/heathrow-issues-hub-airport-decision-warning Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-592402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabfor Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Huguenot Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I get tinnitus. It's really loud - under> conversation but above cats meowing.> > JT76 offers really good advice, you've got to> chill out about it.I'd be grateful for advice on how to "chill out" about having my sleep disturbed by aircraft flying overhead at 4.30am.And if they decide not to build a new runway/airport but instead opt for 24/7 flights, should we remain chilled-out then?And since aircraft noise is likely to have a detrimental effect on our health, will chilling-out counteract this?After millennia of searching for a true panacea, it looks like it's been discovered at last - "chill out!" :-)) and :-)) to that. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-592575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT76 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Move to the country and get lots of lovely sleep. Or stay and deal with the fact the city is a noisy place, the noise being a by-product of the jobs and trade which is the reason people are in London in the first place. The end. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-592580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabfor Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 And when the countryside gets noisy I'll know exactly what to do.... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-592583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT76 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Probably don't need to worry about that just yet though do you? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-592584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabfor Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 There's no need to worry about anything anymore, is there? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-592589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Assuming the early morning landings have been running for considerably longer than this thread (which they have - many years longer) but you've only just started noticing them recently, the best advice is really to try to stop noticing them again, like you didn't before. Somehow. And hope they don't increase. Which of course, they surely will. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-592593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT76 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Or: moan about it. That'll stop those planes dead in their tracks. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/22035-its-430am-and-the-heathrow-flight-path-appears-to-be-in-use/page/4/#findComment-592594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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