Cycle Access from Copleston/Oglander Roads to Grove Vale

[ed_pete]

As part of Southwark Council's Cleaner Greener Safer funding, I'm going to put forward a proposal to enable a cycle lane to be established at the junction of Copleston Road, Oglander Road and Grove Vale. Currently access from Copleston/Oglander is blocked to all traffic and half the junction covered in a wide pavement from when it used to be open to traffic both ways. I'm going to suggest that the Council remove part of the pavement to make way for a cycle lane so cyclists can exit on to Grove Vale legally and safely without climbing the pavement.

I'd like to hear from other cyclists who use this route as to whether or not they think this is a good idea.

[tiddles]

yes, good idea

[Oglandia]

Great idea - its a good cycle access point with the pedestrian crossing nearby and not much traffic. Good luck!

[LostThePlot]

Pete,

Fully support this, but at Coplestone at that end is one way, might it not be wise to change that to no entry for motor vehicles be in order also?

Eric

[TJS]

Yes, seems like a good idea to me too

[scotslass]

the cyclists use the pavement here anyway!! and seem to think that the one way system on Copleston is exempt to them

[peckhamboy]

Quite a few cars ignore the one way system there as well. Hardly surprising though - if you don't know your way around, it's impossible to get out once you're in. Taxis hate going in there. Maybe the whole one way system needs reviewing?

[TJS]

no way the one ways as they are, keeps traffic down these road to a minimum

[peckhamboy]

I'm not suggesting doing away with the one way system, TJS - I just think there should be a better way out! Ondine Rd could be one way going the other way, for example. Anyone living at that end of Copleston has to go round the houses to get out of there in a car - up Bellenden or Adys Rd, or through the DKH estate. None of which is particularly easy to find if you don't know the area.

[ed_pete]

LostThePlot - I expect there would be far too many objections from residents of Coplestone and the surrounding roads to close the junction to cars, and to be honest I would have a great deal of sympathy with them.

Scotslass - you're right, cyclists do climb the pavement but as I said in my original post the point of the cycle lane would be to enable them to exit onto Grove Vale legally and safely without climbing the pavement.

[serif]

Great idea ed_pete.

[Klaus]

How about making Coplestone Road two-way for cyclists?

[????]

Your proposed route is circular and goes through several people's loft conversions and back gardens

[Klaus]

Ha ha, sorry i got that junction mixed up with Ondine Road.

[LostThePlot]

ed_pete Wrote:

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> LostThePlot - I expect there would be far too many

> objections from residents of Coplestone and the

> surrounding roads to close the junction to cars,

> and to be honest I would have a great deal of

> sympathy with them.

Fully agree, however I re-read my post an spotted an omited "only"

"might it not be wise to change that to no entry for motor vehicles ONLY be in order also?

[snorky]

I sometimes see some one dimensional fellow on a ugly fat black harleyD copy ( complete with sad leather satchel on the rack ) pootling through the junction the wrong way and causng problems with cars trying to turn into Copleston - would a bike lane envourage people like this ?

[Oglandia]

Think its a good idea. My 85 yr old neighbour was clipped by a bike on the pavement as she turned the corner from Oglander into Grove VAle . Its really knocked her confidence....

[Jimma]

Excellent idea, Its not easy to navigate on the bike. Perhaps while youre about it you can get the council to build a permenant raised flower bed as the large flower tubs always seem to get wrecked by yobs.

[rifleman harris]

You dont have to take away the whole pavement; just do what is in place at the top of Townley Road- Pavement still there but a cycle lane has been cut through it.

[mlteenie]

Yes, I have cut through here loads of times and I don't like doing - and the one-way could surely be improved. It doesn't seem as efficient as it could be. Great idea.

[ratty]

nt

[d803cn]

One way to solve the one way street issue would be to make one pavement dual use i.e. a pedestrian / cycle path the length of the street. Might have to make the pavement a bit wider to cope

[shorri]

I am a keen cyclist but let's face it - most cycle lanes in London are a waste of time. A total overhaul would be welcomed but spending ?X'000 on a "lane-ette" to get people over what is a very small stretch of pavement is largely pointless. It's not that much of a big deal to get over on a bike is it?! I for one would rather see the money spent elsewhere - like targeting the numerous people who think it's ok to walk their dogs through the area fouling the pavements and leaving it there for example....