Gay/Lesbian Parent Group in East Dulwich

[Keef]

I'm not quite sure we should all act the same, life would be terribly dull. I do know what you're saying though Kel, but when you've been burnt several times, you tend to avoid the fire.

[KalamityKel]

I just feel at times setting up any particular "speci-alist" group be it one based on sexuality, race, intelligence etc is not really encouraging children to mix properly. Yes I understand the need to share similar experiences with those from similar backgrounds but you can also learn alot from others not in your "circle" too.

Loz and Dom did nothing to warrant such a personal and aggressive attack. Instead of reading, acknowledging and accepting someones views and interests a wall was put up and a silly stereotyping errupted for no reason. If people want to be accepted for who they are then really stop the name calling, aggression and continuous bad attitude.

[snorky]

what about L/G/TG only swimming sessions at the ED pool?

etc

Seeing as the last swimming pool restricted access thread got such a good response, lets adapt this one in a similar fashion

[Fuschia]

For goodness sake, have people really got nothing better to do with their time?

The OP was perfectly entitled to suggest setting up a group. Anyone can make links with and meet anyone else they like! Of course lesbian and gay parents want to make contact with similar.

About time this forum expanded a bit from the cliquey "I spend all my time on the forum bitching self-satisfied smug ED-er" types that seem to hijack most posts!!

[KalamityKel]

speak for yourself Fuschia

[SeanMacGabhann]

Fuschia has a point

The forum would be much improved if all we did was concentrate on selling last years lamp-shades and didn't express, like, an opinion man

More seriously I fail to see how this thread was hijacked - a genuine question was asked in response to the original post - all the judgement came from elsewhere. Which post on here came across as self-satisfied or smug Fuschia?

If you can find anything more smug, judgemental or self-satified than

I'd be interested in seeing it - why so full of resentment?

[KalamityKel]

Thats the word I was looking for!

[mockney piers]

Speaking as a suitably chastised self-satisfied smug type I humbly say it's lucky we have you Fuschia to move the forum in the right direction in such an exemplary manner.

Pity you have better things to do with your time though.

[snorky]

Luckily I am a wage slave in a remarkably inefficient company so have very little to do .

[KalamityKel]

::o snorks u work for Sainsbury's? :p

[Fuschia]

I rest my case. You seem to think it's a school playground.. your own school playground!

The OP is a new poster, she asked a perfectly sensible question. Leave her alone, stop bullying her, and don't start on me either! Go and bitch amongst yourselves if you enjoy it so much.

[SeanMacGabhann]

Fuschia there is no bullying - the only belligerent comment has come from you. The original poster asked a sensible question and reacted badly to a question back. Subsequently many people have expressed delight that the situation was diffusing

You may rest your case but you have neither made nor closed any

[mockney piers]

I suspect the concept of irony is a little lost on you, but fair enough Fuschia, I shall stop my blatant bullying and bitching, and go and address my rumbling tummy.

[Keef]

"self-satisfied smug ED-er"

Cool, for a minute I thought you meant me, but obviously not :))

[*Bob*]

I agree 110% with Fuschia.

If you think I haven't got better things to do with my time than sit around reading pages and pages of postings on an internet forum and then post my own comment on it, then you are all sadly mistaken.

[paragon]

Did anyone know that in the handkerchief code of gay leather subculture, wearing a Fuschia bandana means one has a spanking fetish.

(soure: wikipedia)

I feel spanked.

[mightyroar]

Fuschia has got a point.

self satisfied? How about:

'come on if u wanted to b treated the same you would act the same and not try to alienate yourselves by deliberately being different!'

Smug? the very definition:

'I suspect the concept of irony is a little lost on you'

[mockney piers]

:-$ I'm replanting my window boxes immediately!!

that has something of the finbarr saunders about it

[mockney piers]

>Smug? the very definition:

>'I suspect the concept of irony is a little lost on you'

Feel free to elaborate on that one?

Someone comes on belligerently posting about what a waste of time posting is and screaming that people are bullying and they must do as she says, when actually the debate had been largely good humoured and well reasoned up until then.

And when people politely retort (it is a discussion forum after all), she declares that she has just been proved right and she can rest her case.

Smug means inappropriate or offensive self-satisfaction.

Fuschia's there with the name callings, satisfied in her righteousness and wholly missing the irony of her position.

I tried to point out said irony and I'm smug? Nice.

No doubt this post is smug, rather than reasoned, too is it?

[lozzyloz]

Excuse ME!!! Can we please get back to the main point of this thread please?

Am I a homophobe or not?

Fuschia it's incredibly bad etiquette to hijack a thread unless you've got a relevant point to make.

[*Bob*]

Can't you read, Lozzy?

She's BUSY.

[citizenED]

Cazzyr started the thread with this post:

"Are there are gay/lesbian parents out there who'd fancy meeting up mid week on a fortnightly basis? My girlfriend and I are Mums to a 10 month old and feel it would be good to meet up with other parents and do fun things together. I wouldn't intend it to be a discussion group per se...simply a kids/parents get together.There's loads on for hetero parents but v little for the gays in the village!"

perfectly reasoned and with a quip!

Scruffy Mummy responded with a great informative post and a "Good Luck"

Then, and hour later, Lozzy chipped in with his post;

"I don't mean to sound ignorant (here goes) but can you also join in with hetero groups and do fun things together or does that not work if you're gay parents? If it doesn't work is it because the hetero group does not accept you or because you prefer to stick with like? Sorry, just curious!"

Hardly provocative (how else could he have couched such a question?), but then it all kicked off.

OK, so ideally the original post should have been in the wanted section, or Lozzy could have started his own thread to discuss the issues raised. But something - OK its good to have a knockabout on here from time to time, but all the unnecessary personal invective is plain unnecessary. And it's always a pity when an innocent post ends up like this, with new posters feeling hard done to and people being unfairly accused.

Citizen - straight from the Relate offices.

[Domitianus]

annaj Wrote:

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> cazzyr Wrote:

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> -----

> > Ok,

> >

> > Night Dom. One question...Adoption? ? Where'd

> you

> > get that from?

> >

> > Caz

>

> Good point.

> Dom, I for one thought you were doing really well

> (if a little heated) apart from this glaring and

> repeated error.

> I'm just an ignorant hetty, but even I know that

> gay ladies still have lady bits and all you need

> to do is woosh a bit of sperm up there (that's a

> techinical, medical description obviously).

> Nice to see you post about something you actually

> care about though, is this the real Domitianus at

> last?

>

> I think I always thought of is as a slightly

> soggy, fat, potato chip. Definitely something

> you'd flick off not fill in.

Without wishing to reignite this discussion since we have all now pured oil on troubled waters - the reason I referred to adoption was due to my knowing a gay couple (blokes) who have adopted a child and I automatically defaulted to this assumption when the issue of gay/lesbian parents was raised. I am happy to stand corrected on this minor point and let's all kove forward.

[Domitianus]

LostThePlot Wrote:

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> annaj Wrote:

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> > Have checked....the 19th century American

> > practice of men spoiling for a fight by

> balancing

> > a chip of wood on there shoulder and

> challenging

> > others to knock it off*.

>

> Surely it will require some form of restraining

> mechanism, or it might just fall off of its own

> accord... Shoulders not being very good at keeping

> things up by the poorly designed sloping attitude.

As is evidenced by the existence of the epaulette?

[Cassius]

Er - to answer another question in the thread I like Women Only swimming sessions because other women don't get naffed off when I swim faster than them and then make a huge effort to show that they can actually swim faster than me and end up half drowning me with their ineffectual efforts at the front crawl. Women all swim at their own pace and this creates a more relaxing vibe in which to exercise.

Not all men but some seem to see everything as a competition - some even compete to see who could meditate best and get into the deepest trance (I have experienced this actually)

sorry if off subject but I wasn't a member of the forum last time this topic came up!