Jump to content

Recommended Posts

What the hell is happening? I suffer from bipolar, osteoporosis, osteoporosis. I have been told that I am fit for work and put on jobseekerS ALLOWANCE. consequently i am going to be thrown out of my home because it has 2 bedrooms and i cannot afford to pay for the extra room. I have attempted suicide on 3 previous occasions i would like to apologise to this government that i did not succeed but i have a grandchild that i would dearly like to see. I apologise to all you tax payers out there who feel they are supporting me. I worked from the age of 15 - 34. My health stopped me from working further. I will not allow myself to be put to ground in an area that (a) i dont know and (b) i dont want to be. My two grandfathers fought hitler, now i feel i am being hounded like the jewish people were.
Link to comment
https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29165-social-cleansing/
Share on other sites

Its disgusting how this goverment are treating disabled people,


Lindylou, if you have just recieved this decision, you can appeal,

Do you have someone who can help you with this? On tht 17th january

32 backbenchers put forward there concerns about atos.You can read this

on blacktrianglecampaign.com, sorry cant put a link up just now.

Figures are given on how many people win there appeal. There is

also concerns put forward regarding mental health issues.

Its so unfair you are being put through this.

Definately put in an appeal straight away. Say you will represent yourself. Get on the phone to them first thing tomorrow to tell them that is what you are going to do so that they do not stop your benefits, then reply in writing, following the the instructions on your decision letter. Good luck.
Definitely get advice from the charity Mind as soon as you can. There is a 'perfect storm' being created by this narrowly focused government and unfortunately it sounds you are being battered from at least two I'll thought out policies. Please seek advice from Mind. Good luck!

This is happening at the same time as massive cuts to legal aid. If you contact a lawyer who deals with welfare benefits before the cuts come into force in April, you might be able to get funding to fight your case.


I know Glazer Delmar in North are very good and they used to have a Legal Aid franchise for immigration, but I don't know if they do welfare benefits. I'm sure if you contact them and they don't take welfare benefit cases, they will be able to refer you to someone good who does.


This is a very difficult thing to fight of you are bipolar, so getting a lawyer will make it much easier.


Good luck

This is hideous & follows a low key media campaign by the government to demonise ALL people on benefits so they can get public support for these ill thought out polices. I have a friend who is bipolar Who I used to work with who is desperate to work, but his illness prevents him but he still tries, & I lost a family member a few years ago to suicide through mental health issues who would have been affected by this if she was still around. For a Government to make light of a condition that makes it hard for people to function is just ridiculous in the 21st century.

I hope you find some help in the advice from the people that have posted above.

Appeal the decision. I used to work as a mental health advocate in Bromley and there was a guy who worked together with Mind to help people with appeals. Don't think he covers Southwark but if you contact the local Mind they should be able to help you...


I know lots of people who have been judged wrongly as fit for work. You are not alone, try not to panic about it.

Hi Lindylou.


You are not alone. ATOS fail everyone but the most obviously disabled. They can fail you because the assessment they give, and the scoring they use for answers to the questions they ask are designed to fail all but the most obviously disabled. ATOS are paid ?500 for every person they fail. If you appeal and win, they do not have to pay that ?500 back and worse still have called people back in for a new assessment within weeks of success at appeal, only to put them through the whole disgraceful process again.


You must put in an appeal right away, in order to continue your incapacity status benefits. You will though only be paid the base rate of ESA of ?71 (I think it's that amount) per week while your case awaits tribunal. If you win your appeal you will be paid all the benefit owed, backdated, but that of course doesn't help you to live on the reduced benefit whilst you wait for that process to go through (and it can take months).


The CAB are a good port of call for advice first. You could also ask your GP to refer you to one of the local community mental health teams (there's one based in Lordship Lane) and they will help you get this sorted out.


As Astrid says above, this is happening to lots of people. Do not panic. The governement have been told by many far better qualifed people than they, just how wrong this is and the impact it is having on people affected. The just don't care, and why should they? They want for nothing, and owe everything to the privileged upbringings they enjoyed.

DaveR: admittedly the OP is not about to be shaved then gassed and incinerated.

But the OP's feeling of being discriminated against and effectively forced-out of her (?) property is surely undeniable. The OP's analogy may not be perfect or appropriate, but not to the extent where she must be considered as deserving the situation the Govt has placed her under ?

"DaveR: admittedly the OP is not about to be shaved then gassed and incinerated.

But the OP's feeling of being discriminated against and effectively forced-out of her property is surely undeniable. The OP's analogy may not be perfect or appropriate, but not to the extent where she must be considered as deserving the situation the Govt has placed her under ?"


What the OP is actualy saying (explicitly) is:


"I will not allow myself to be put to ground in an area that (a) i dont know and (b) i dont want to be" i.e. I insist that the taxpayer continue to fund me living in the property I want, in the area I want. To compare that to genocide displays a pretty breathtaking lack of perspective, and in fact might be taken to be representative of an attitude to a beneifts system which tbh is unlikely to be supportable economically. I don't know the OP and it may very well be that she has been shamefully treated - but I'm not going to make that assumption automatically because of what 'the government is doing to disabled people'.

I know several people who have been 'assessed' by ATOS and it seems that if a disabled person (doctors' and surgeons' evidence fully up to date) can actually get to the appointment on public transport (allbeit that they may take 3 days to recover from the ordeal) then they will be put on JobSeeker's.

Champ Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Why would a bipolar disorder or osteoporosis

> prevent someone from working? Undeniably there

> will be some occupations that won't be suitable

> but not all.


Can you think of a job suitable for someone suffering from severe depression and mania on a regular basis and high levels of physical pain upon movement? I'm struggling but I'm sure you can enlighten us.....

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • The is very low water pressure in the middle of Friern Road this morning.
    • I think mostly those are related to the same "issues". In my experience, it's difficult using the pin when reporting problems, especially if you're on a mobile... There's two obvious leaks in that stretch and has been for sometime one of them apparently being sewer flooding 😱  
    • BBC Homepage Skip to content Accessibility Help EFor you Notifications More menu Search BBC                     BBC News Menu   UK England N. Ireland Scotland Alba Wales Cymru Isle of Man Guernsey Jersey Local News Vets under corporate pressure to increase revenue, BBC told   Image source,Getty Images ByRichard Bilton, BBC Panorama and Ben Milne, BBC News Published 2 hours ago Vets have told BBC Panorama they feel under increasing pressure to make money for the big companies that employ them - and worry about the costly financial impact on pet owners. Prices charged by UK vets rose by 63% between 2016 and 2023, external, and the government's competition regulator has questioned whether the pet-care market - as it stands - is giving customers value for money. One anonymous vet, who works for the UK's largest vet care provider, IVC Evidensia, said that the company has introduced a new monitoring system that could encourage vets to offer pet owners costly tests and treatment options. A spokesperson for IVC told Panorama: "The group's vets and vet nurses never prioritise revenue or transaction value over and above the welfare of the animal in their care." More than half of all UK households are thought to own a pet, external. Over the past few months, hundreds of pet owners have contacted BBC Your Voice with concerns about vet bills. One person said they had paid £5,600 for 18 hours of vet-care for their pet: "I would have paid anything to save him but felt afterwards we had been taken advantage of." Another described how their dog had undergone numerous blood tests and scans: "At the end of the treatment we were none the wiser about her illness and we were presented with a bill of £13,000."   Image caption, UK pet owners spent £6.3bn on vet and other pet-care services in 2024, according to the CMA Mounting concerns over whether pet owners are receiving a fair deal prompted a formal investigation by government watchdog, the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA). In a provisional report, external at the end of last year, it identified several issues: Whether vet companies are being transparent about the ownership of individual practices and whether pet owners have enough information about pricing The concentration of vet practices and clinics in the hands of six companies - these now control 60% of the UK's pet-care market Whether this concentration has led to less market competition and allowed some vet care companies to make excess profits 'Hitting targets' A vet, who leads one of IVC's surgeries (and who does not want to be identified because they fear they could lose their job), has shared a new internal document with Panorama. The document uses a colour code to compare the company's UK-wide tests and treatment options and states that it is intended to help staff improve clinical care. It lists key performance indicators in categories that include average sales per patient, X-rays, ultrasound and lab tests. The vet is worried about the new policy: "We will have meetings every month, where one of the area teams will ask you how many blood tests, X-rays and ultrasounds you're doing." If a category is marked in green on the chart, the clinic would be judged to be among the company's top 25% of achievers in the UK. A red mark, on the other hand, would mean the clinic was in the bottom 25%. If this happens, the vet says, it might be asked to come up with a plan of action. The vet says this would create pressure to "upsell" services. Panorama: Why are vet bills so high? Are people being priced out of pet ownership by soaring bills? Watch on BBC iPlayer now or BBC One at 20:00 on Monday 12 January (22:40 in Northern Ireland) Watch on iPlayer For instance, the vet says, under the new model, IVC would prefer any animal with suspected osteoarthritis to potentially be X-rayed. With sedation, that could add £700 to a bill. While X-rays are sometimes necessary, the vet says, the signs of osteoarthritis - the thickening of joints, for instance - could be obvious to an experienced vet, who might prefer to prescribe a less expensive anti-inflammatory treatment. "Vets shouldn't have pressure to do an X-ray because it would play into whether they are getting green on the care framework for their clinic." IVC has told Panorama it is extremely proud of the work its clinical teams do and the data it collects is to "identify and close gaps in care for our patients". It says its vets have "clinical independence", and that prioritising revenue over care would be against the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons' (RCVS) code and IVC policy. Vets say they are under pressure to bring in more money per pet   Published 15 April 2025 Vets should be made to publish prices, watchdog says   Published 15 October 2025 The vet says a drive to increase revenue is undermining his profession. Panorama spoke to more than 30 vets in total who are currently working, or have worked, for some of the large veterinary groups. One recalls being told that not enough blood tests were being taken: "We were pushed to do more. I hated opening emails." Another says that when their small practice was sold to a large company, "it was crazy... It was all about hitting targets". Not all the big companies set targets or monitor staff in this way. The high cost of treatment UK pet owners spent £6.3bn on vet and other pet-care services in 2024 - equal to just over £365 per pet-owning household, according to the CMA. However, most pet owners in the UK do not have insurance, and bills can leave less-well-off families feeling helpless when treatment is needed. Many vets used not to display prices and pet owners often had no clear idea of what treatment would cost, but in the past two years that has improved, according to the CMA. Rob Jones has told Panorama that when his family dog, Betty, fell ill during the autumn of 2024 they took her to an emergency treatment centre, Vets Now, and she underwent an operation that cost almost £5,000. Twelve days later, Betty was still unwell, and Rob says he was advised that she could have a serious infection. He was told a diagnosis - and another operation - would cost between £5,000-£8,000.   Image caption, Betty's owners were told an operation on her would cost £12,000 However, on the morning of the operation, Rob was told this price had risen to £12,000. When he complained, he was quoted a new figure - £10,000. "That was the absolute point where I lost faith in them," he says. "It was like, I don't believe that you've got our interests or Betty's interests at heart." The family decided to put Betty to sleep. Rob did not know at the time that both his local vet, and the emergency centre, branded Vets Now, where Betty was treated, were both owned by the same company - IVC. He was happy with the treatment but complained about the sudden price increase and later received an apology from Vets Now. It offered him £3,755.59 as a "goodwill gesture".   Image caption, Rob Jones says he lost faith in the vets treating his pet dog Betty Vets Now told us its staff care passionately for the animals they treat: "In complex cases, prices can vary depending on what the vet discovers during a consultation, during the treatment, and depending on how the patient responds. "We have reviewed our processes and implemented a number of changes to ensure that conversations about pricing are as clear as possible." Value for money? Independent vet practices have been a popular acquisition for corporate investors in recent years, according to Dr David Reader from the University of Glasgow. He has made a detailed study of the industry. Pet care has been seen as attractive, he says, because of the opportunities "to find efficiencies, to consolidate, set up regional hubs, but also to maximise profits". Six large veterinary groups (sometimes referred to as LVGs) now control 60% of the UK pet care market - up from 10% a decade ago, according to the CMA, external. They are: Linnaeus, which owns 180 practices Medivet, which has 363 Vet Partners with 375 practices CVS Group, which has 387 practices Pets at Home, which has 445 practices under the name Vets for Pets IVC Evidensia, which has 900 practices When the CMA announced its provisional findings last autumn, it said there was not enough competition or informed choice in the market. It estimated the combined cost of this to UK pet owners amounted to £900m between 2020-2024. Corporate vets dispute the £900m figure. They say their prices are competitive and made freely available, and reflect their huge investment in the industry, not to mention rising costs, particularly of drugs. The corporate vets also say customers value their services highly and that they comply with the RCVS guidelines.   Image caption, A CMA survey suggests pet owners are happy with the service they receive from vets A CMA survey suggests pet owners are happy with their vets - both corporate and independent - when it comes to quality of service. But, with the exception of Pets at Home, customer satisfaction on cost is much lower for the big companies. "I think that large veterinary corporations, particularly where they're owned by private equity companies, are more concerned about profits than professionals who own veterinary businesses," says Suzy Hudson-Cooke from the British Veterinary Union, which is part of Unite. Proposals for change The CMA's final report on the vet industry is expected by the spring but no date has been set for publication. In its provisional report, it proposed improved transparency on pricing and vet ownership. Companies would have to reveal if vet practices were part of a chain, and whether they had business connections with hospitals, out-of-hours surgeries, online pharmacies and even crematoria. IVC, CVS and Vet Partners all have connected businesses and would have to be more transparent about their services in the future. Pets at Home does not buy practices - it works in partnership with individual vets, as does Medivet. These companies have consistently made clear in their branding who owns their practices. The big companies say they support moves to make the industry more transparent so long as they don't put too high a burden on vets. David Reader says the CMA proposals could have gone further. "There's good reason to think that once this investigation is concluded, some of the larger veterinary groups will continue with their acquisition strategies." The CMA says its proposals would "improve competition by helping pet owners choose the right vet, the right treatment, and the right way to buy medicine - without confusion or unnecessary cost". For Rob Jones, however, it is probably too late. "I honestly wouldn't get another pet," he says. "I think it's so expensive now and the risk financially is so great.             Food Terms of Use About the BBC Privacy Policy Cookies Accessibility Help Parental Guidance Contact the BBC Make an editorial complaint BBC emails for you Copyright © 2026 BBC. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. Read about our approach to external linking.
    • What does the area with the blue dotted lines and the crossed out water drop mean? No water in this area? So many leaks in the area.
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...