Goose Green roundabout incident

[Jamma]

What happened at Goose Green roundabout around 5.30 last night? Lots of traffic backing up and two buses and a car going nowhere at the roundabout. Hope no-one was hurt. Didn't stop to gawp but my initial suspicion would be to put it down to bad driving by the buses?

[scotslass]

A young guy tried to get in front of the number 37 but his car came off the worse and went into the roundabout. No-one was injured, thankfully. Was on my way to the gym and the driver was talking to the police and his passenger was looking embarassed at all the people stopping to have a look

[KalamityKel]

nice assumption that it was the bus drivers fault jamma! tut tut

[seanmlow]

It mostly is! They drive like bats out of hell round here.

Maybe they should remember to slow down when they see the flowers by the 12 bus stop by Peckham Rye,

where a school girl was dragged across the road until her death.

[KalamityKel]

the buses r no worse than ANY other vehichle on the roads... just pedestrianise the whole area and b done wiv it... stop ppl moaning about it all then! :p

[annaj]

seanmlow Wrote:

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> It mostly is! They drive like bats out of hell

> round here.

>

> Maybe they should remember to slow down when they

> see the flowers by the 12 bus stop by Peckham

> Rye,

> where a school girl was dragged across the road

> until her death.

I didn't see this happen Sean, so obviously can't be sure, but my recollection of the reports at the time is that the pavement at the stop was crowded and the child, for whatever reason, stepped off the pavement as the bus was pulling into the stop.

A tragic and devastating accident for the child and her family, but also extremely traumatic for the driver. I think it's most unfair to imply that the bus driver was entirely to blame without the full facts or that any driver would take a fatal accident lightly.

As I say, this is my recolleciton of the reports at the time, I will of course stand corrected if anyone saw the accident or has more information.

[CamberwellOz]

I've been in Australia for the past four months and on returning back to South London I realise how aggressive the driving is around here. I nearly hit a motorbike at the corner of Peckham Rye when I was turning right because he jumped the lights. I ended up having to stop and getting stuck in the middle of the intersection getting abused by pedestrians. Although I do find it hard down Lordship Lane too. It seems that all the pedestrians wander across the road without looking. I understand that the road is getting very popular but it only takes two seconds to look both ways.

[seanmlow]

Lordship Lane is really dangerous - I think another crossing is needed. I am guilty of running across between traffic!

In summer it is worse with people spilling onto the pavements from pubs etc, etc.

[jimbo1964]

Agreed. A crossing by Somerfield would be useful.

[jim_the_chin]

i think the crossing by the roundabout is dangerous to all.

when coming from the grove and turning into lordship lane you have to check traffic encroaching from east dulwich road, then those edging out from spurling road, then quickly switch your eyes to the opposite side of the road to see if anyone is on the north side of the crossing. And your sight of that is further obscured by the A-pillar between the car windscreen and driver's door which neatly lines up with the other side of the crossing.

i've often had to brake a bit sharply here when someone appears and i'm always expecting a shunt up the backside. there's too many things going on to make it a safe place to cross.

[snorky]

Cheaper than a Xing - stop car access for much of the day

[KalamityKel]

Jimbo a crossing by Somerfield has been considered and rejected in the past. That particular part of the Lane is too dangerous to install one there.

[Loz]

Lordship Lane is really dangerous - I think another crossing is needed. I am guilty of running across between traffic!

Can I take the Sean McG approach here and suggest that if everyone walked less and walked more carefully there would be no problem at all? :))

[SeanMacGabhann]

* buys loz a drink *

seriously tho, I'm glad no-one was hurt but that was a bit of a presumption there Jamma. And Annaj recollection re that incident is the same as mine

But I'm not against cars on LL - just wish there were fewer. And those that drive spent less time complaining (kudos to CitizenEd for his post on a related subject)

Goose Green as a junction I have found to be mostly pretty good - most people seem to have good awareness there - it's the one by the Bishop that is a real monster. Something needs to be done there

[Cassius]

Loz Wrote:

>

> Can I take the Sean McG approach here and suggest

> that if everyone walked less and walked more

> carefully there would be no problem at all? :))

Walked less and drove more?

[Loz]

No, no. People should just stay at home. Dominos is your friend.

[????]

EDF in curtain twitching rubber neck thingy shocker

[Deep pocket]

Dominos is my friend now they fixed that bl**dy door anyway.