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Cassius, the Italian government could set the limit to a 1,000,000g frankly, as Italians, in my experience, are far too concerned with strutting around all night preening and leching, whilst nursing a single campari or small glass of wine, to ever overindulge in alcohol.

A tad harsh perhaps :-$ and that's the centre of Verona I'm describing; preenlechville central!!


Having said all that I'm seriously considering buying a place in Italy, with a decent eye on a long-term plan of settling there permanently. Italian wine is one of the big draws too :)-D

Where abouts in Italy? We have a place and hope to be there full time in the next couple of years - I just lurve Italian food, wine, state of mind - although maybe having French, Greek and Italian blood in me helps.


I do know what you mean about preening and leching though - Taormina or Reggio Emilia on a Saturday night.......

I don't know Italy that well, but loved Tuscany/Umbria last year, so that'll probably be a starting point when looking.

I've also pottered about the north-east and the Dolomites which I loved, very different (and I think I'll stick with the warmer centre), but imagine having that scenery on your doorstep, not to mention Dalmatia but a stones-throw away!!

I think Tuscany is very very expensive when it comes to property prices. Puglia and the south is much cheaper but then of course the communication links are not so good.


There are loads and loads of good websites for property plus I've found a couple for ex pats to comment on. Personally I'd avoid places with too many Brits however its always good to hear how other people have successfully made the move.


And to keep it on topic - you can find some wonderful regional wines over there that never make it to England, and often they are only 11 percent so you can drink more for your units!

Oh god yes, sound, sound advice.

English Estate Agents are one of the things I hope to escape from ;-)


I'm nothing if not a walking, talking chattering class clich? Jah!! Pity Tillie gave me good advice else Louisa could have enjoyed another middle class type realise he's been ripped off!

Gosh, what a can (33cl) of worms I've opened. One thing that stops me drinking too much (more than a double G and T and a glass of wine a night, when not on late or dawn shifts) is the fact that is so calorific. I like to eat and if I drink too much as well, then I'll be scared of getting overweight.

I think we know the potential dangers of booze and we don't like knowing it.

BTW, try Le Marche, Mockney, in your Italian search. Cheaper and wilder than Tu/mbria (I just made that up and shall be seething if Conde Nast Traveller takes it up!).

I sometimes wonder if they put the number of calories on an alcopop it might put some young people off drinking them - I know that I would shudder to drink some sweetened 500 calorie drink - 1/4 my daily intake!


Edited to add - driving around and looking is fine if you speak some Italian - when you get to areas like Le Marche, Molise, Abruzzi there are not a lot of English speakers outside the larger towns.

The type of drinking people on here seem to be talking about is the beautifully poetic type of getting giggly-sloshed over an evening and ending up cuddling someone you shouldn't or whispering drink-witticisms into the night. It might be long-term health dangerous for that individual but it is jolly good fun all the same.

Much more worrying is the type of drinking that gets people raging for a fight. I don't care if mellow people get quietly drunk but I do care that angry knobs get aggressive pissed. grrr..

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/britain-falls-into-a-hedge-20080523971/



I personally couldn?t give a stuff about how much I or others drink. I am far too busy working with a friend of mine on a universal theory of blaming Carol Voderman for everything.


I?ll let you know how we get on.

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