Northcross Road - Market traders (Lounged)

[SeanMacGabhann]

To think.. I might have shared a pint in near proximity to ???? in the Forresters and not even be aware of it

[Sue]

If North Cross Road is pedestrianised, I am going to have to reverse all the way down my road every market day - not sure my driving skills are up to it !!

Neighbours, you may wish to park elsewhere !!

:-S

[????]

Sean, you may have even beaten me at Pool

[Louisa]

I think the market would attract more people if it appealed to everyone and not just the elite few who like spending money on expensive cr*p. What is the deal with "ethnic stalls" and "antiques and collectables".. And I am sure ethnic refers to unique food types and not smelly meat/fish/veg stalls like the ones in Peckham. A proper market has street traders calling out with deals on offer, not loads of Chiswick day trippers selling off the silverware to unsuspecting yummies waiting to rinse hubby's amex plantinum card on a saturday morning!

Louisa.

[nutty]

Silverware... Stalls that take amex cards....

Are we talking about the same market...?

[Asset]

There is a fantastic silver jewellery stall, she doesn't take cards though (sadly)

[BJL]

Louisa Wrote:

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> I think the market would attract more people if it

> appealed to everyone and not just the elite few

> who like spending money on expensive cr*p.

Why do you think it would "attract more people" if it became just like other local markets in Brixton, Peckham, East Street etc?

> A proper market

> has street traders calling out with deals on

> offer, not loads of Chiswick day trippers selling

> off the silverware to unsuspecting yummies waiting

> to rinse hubby's amex plantinum card on a saturday

> morning!

Oh, for the "Good Old Days"...

http://www201.blibs.com/editor/working/121204894492050?5656403676

[Louisa]

What kind of market is this, i'm still confused. Thank god I can get a bus to Lewisham.

Louisa.

[Louisa]

BJL, most people in London still visit traditional markets without any issue, why is it so difficult for the people around here to contemplate a market that appeals to everyone and not just trendy urban sandle wearing hippies and yummy mummy's! Anyone would think I was the odd one out for having this opinion, at least i'm in the real world here! EARTH TO EAST DULWICH, ANYONE HOME?

Louisa.

[Dulwich_ Park_ Fairy]

at least i'm in the real world here

Circa 1950.

Actually, I do pity you Louisa, everyday must be like purgatory for you, surrounded as you are by the very worst that mankind can offer.

[*Bob*]

Fortunately, Lewisham is only a bus ride away

"Stick a pony in my pocket

I'll fetch the suitcase from the van" etc

[Louisa]

Too bloody right DPF. And I actually pity you, because you are typical of the type of person that visits this market. You'll probably end up travelling outside of London one day and seeing a bit more of life, until then you can carry on being, as your EDF identity suggests, a mythical creature living within the boundaries of a land beyond reality in which middle class people can pretend the world around them is perfect.

Louisa.

[BJL]

Louisa Wrote:

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> BJL, most people in London still visit traditional

> markets without any issue, why is it so difficult

> for the people around here to contemplate a market

> that appeals to everyone

Louisa,

Are you saying that "traditional markets" like Peckham, Brixton, Lewisham and East Street "appeal to everyone"?

You're confused? I'm totally lost...

NCR market - second hand furniture, old jewellery, clothes, books, fresh fish and meat, home-baked cakes. Not "traditional".

Brixton market - mobile phone covers, makeup, fufu flour, DVDs, yams, tofu, fake Gucci handbags, scented candles, "ethnic food stalls" (South American, African, Caribbean, Italian). Traditional.

Have I got that right?

I go to both NCR and Brixton markets almost every week. I'm from Jamaica and I buy my Caribbean cooking ingredients, fish and fruit/vegetables, music etc in Brixton. Sometimes clothes, too. I also like buying music, fudge, old books etc from the NCR market. I enjoy bumping into friends and neighbours in both places and enjoy shopping in both. What's the problem?

Why do have such a problem with variety and difference? It's one of the reasons why I enjoy living in London. Sounds much better than your "real world".

[SeanMacGabhann]

Louisa is under the impression that the current population of ED was hatched, and have little or no life-experience outside SE22. Despite numerous posts from numerous people about the numerous places they come from and go to on a regular basis, we are told we "need to get out of Ed more often"

[*Bob*]

There's something for everyone here, Louisa.

You've still got Poundland at AJ Farmers, Iceland for your Ross fish fingers and Prawn Cocktail at Eric and Margarets when you deserve a treat.

There's no need to feel excluded.

[Louisa]

BJL you are the one who has the issue with variety and difference confused. Brixton market has changed little in the years it has been there, it may be more diverse, but that is something which comes with the changing face of a city or place over time. NCR market has been manufactured into a false traditional experience of a market so that it is safe and comfortable for middle class people to do their shopping without fear of exposure to the underclass or 'ordinary' working class people. All of the stalls sell overpriced goods for aimed at snobs who have moved into the area within the last five to ten years. It has no real substance. The great market which once dominated this stretch of road was not forced there, it grew over time and evolved. I love diversity, hence why I visit market's like the ones in Brixton, Lewisham, Bromley. My point is these places all contain a diverse range of produce for everyone and have been around for years, this one on NCR likes to give that impression, but it is clearly aimed at one income group within this area.

*Bob* I still use the above and enjoy them as much as possible, i'm sure given another decde such little treats will be gone forever as yet another couple of boutiques take over those retail units! lmao

Louisa.

Sean, yes you are totally right on that one. Perhaps it is a little harsh to put everyone who has moved here within the last decade into that catergory, but I am sure the types of people who visit the market and claim to love the area so much are the ones who walk blindly into a rough area and have little common sense in understanding the possibility of being mugged or attacked. These are the people who lack worldly understanding Sean, and you are fully aware of the types of people I refer to.

[BJL]

Louisa Wrote:

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> I love diversity,

Judging by your posts here, this must be a joke.

[Asset]

only if it's good old working class diversity

[Cassius]

Louisa - I like NCR market and I've lived here for over 21 years - I think it could do with a bit more diversity however and would be interested to see how expansion would accommodate all that wish to use it.

[mockney piers]

It's like a broken record isn't it.

Actually it's more like a skipping CD in its shrill staccato regularity, but of course CDs are only for the post 1940s generation and exclusive to those Surbiton types who wrap themselves in cotton wool.

[Nero]

Louisa has a point. The NCR (and even she adopts, perhaps even invents, this trendy-middle class abbreviation) has sprung up to cater for the locals. It mainly sells 'boutique' version of items such as cake and coffee, as well as purely 'boutique' stuff in its own right, like pashminas. It is in no way a market as I experience in Stockport, Manchester, Leeds. It doesn't make it better or worse than a 'normal' market.

[macroban]

> Iceland for your Ross fish fingers [...]

Black propaganda.

Iceland East Dulwich don't sell 'em.

[mockney piers]

"It doesn't make it better or worse than a 'normal' market."

That's rather the point. There's a value judgement going on regards what NCRM is. It's a market that caters for a local, err...market in a sort of traders trying to earn a bit of money shocker type fashion.

I for one desperately miss the dynamite stalls in the Yukon in the late 1890s, there was a 'real' market for real people!!! But you know, times move on.

[Dulwich_ Park_ Fairy]

Too bloody right DPF. And I actually pity you, because you are typical of the type of person that visits this market. You'll probably end up travelling outside of London one day and seeing a bit more of life, until then you can carry on being, as your EDF identity suggests, a mythical creature living within the boundaries of a land beyond reality in which middle class people can pretend the world around them is perfect.

I don't want to get into a dick-waving contest but I'm pretty sure that I can out working-class you Louisa. Probably because of this I tend to appereciate the finer things in life and certainly wouldn't want my kids to eat the kind of junk that I was brought up on, the kind of food you probably think "real" people should eat.

I'm truly sorry that your arcadia of grim food, grotty pubs, and dodgy markets has been replaced by things not to your particular liking, and that the area has been invaded by people who earn more money than you. You could always move closer to Bromley though.

[Jeremy]

I like fish fingers... particularly in a sandwich with melted cheese and tartare sauce. Are the Ross brand of fish fingers any good?