Forest Hill Tavern - Late Night Noise (Lounged)

[ruthb]

Booboo2008 Wrote:

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> Poor JohnL.... He doesn't sound like a lady to me

> :)) By the way, are you a share-holder in the FHT

> ruthb?

No. It's not a good thing to have shares in this 'current ecconomic climate';-) I've never actually put that in a sentence before and I've used it twice so far today ha!!

[Marmora Man]

There has been one incident, at least they know how to deal with situations like this and learn that there needs to be more security/ bouncers.. whatever it takes to make sure that it's a safe environment for cutomers, passers by and residents.

I'm not sre the FHT does know how to deal with situations like this. By apparently turning an OK neighbourhood pub into an effective night club with late night closing and drugs available on Fridays & Saturdays they have created an ambience that encourages problems. Bigger, beefier bouncers aren't, to my mind, the answer. Running the FHT as a pub / gastropub - with occasional gigs seems right and proper - and with a very clear No Drugs policy, why not stick to that?

[ruthb]

Marmora Man Wrote:

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> Running the FHT as

> a pub / gastropub - with occasional gigs seems

> right and proper -

We need a place for gigs around here. Why don't we put it to them? Also gig's only really go on until about 11.30 so that'll please fatty too.

[*Bob*]

Marmora Man Wrote:

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> with a very clear No Drugs

> policy, why not stick to that?

Mr Marmora,

Been into any (ie every) pub in SE22 from Thursday onwards and noted the vacant urinals but queue for the cubicle?

[ruthb]

I'm with *Bob*.

I thought the issue was noise and guns not drugs. Ectasy def shouldn't be a problem.. I say the more E the better.. loved up people, HAPPY and most often without a weight issue. Now crack.. well that's a diferrent story.. none of that thanks but you shouldn't rule drugs out comnpletely, it can make society a better place.

[ratty]

2 of my service user's nephews died because of Ecstasy last week. I am glad it is so little a problem!

[ruthb]

I was being flippant admittedly maybe not the best way to be on this forum but this whole argumement has become a joke.

Sorry if I offended people. I understand the problems with drugs, I was trying to be a bit ... i duuno, just trying to bring it back on a level before fatfighter got all Les Dawson (bitchy neighbour over the fence) on me again.

[ruthb]

sorry ratty.

[*Bob*]

There is, of course, a difference between people turning-up with their drugs, taking them and (generally) being happy - and different sets of people turning-up hoping to sell them to people who are turning-up hoping they'll be for sale.

Add to the mix a venue that doesn't quite know what it is, which means a mixed crowd who don't all rub along together (and aren't all there for the same reasons).. and you've got trouble.

I'm talking 'in general' here as I've never been into the FHT (only past it to get flatbread and humous) so can't finger-pointy in any way.

[ratty]

E's are now containing much more PMA which is a hell of a lot more dangerous than MDMA as it raises body temp that much more. The two lads I know that died were snorting the stuff which increases the risk but this is not an uncommon practice because the "come up" is so quick and pretty mind blowing.

Sadly no drugs are safe because of their illegality and the mind set of the a-holes that produce and sell them! :(

I must be getting old, but where there are venues with open drug taking on the premises then I support some measures being taken to address it. It's not 1990 any more sadly!

[ruthb]

There's also the massive and devastating impact on the environment through cocain production (pestisides, deforestation etc) as well as cocaine consumption by wealthy (white) europeans detroying entire nations; assisting in increased poverty, mass unemployment and pandemics.

I'm getting old too.. but wiser.

[Doodles]

This thread seems to have become a bit bizarre.

Is it really surprising that people who live in a relatively quiet residential area, with a local pub, curry house and a few shops are upset when the pub mutates into a late-night venue complete with late night noise and, at the very least, a perceived threat to their personal safety? Not crazy at all.

[snorky]

I dont live close enough to the FHT to comment on this particular case, but it was always a bit shit & full of thicknecked blokes using fruity language (!)

Drug taking is widespread & not restricted to the clientle of the FHT - its pretty obvious on LL, but not done in open sight - the debris is easy to see in the various bogs

Anyway., as long as this venue contnues ( I assume ) to make money from these nights, there will be precious little that can be done in reality - just make sure you document everything to the soft cops at every opportunity

Failing that, pubs & clubs popularity peak and then decline rapidly - that may change the owners perspective

[fatfightersforever]

snorky Wrote:

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> I dont live close enough to the FHT to comment on

> this particular case, but it was always a bit shit

> & full of thicknecked blokes using fruity language

> (!)

>

> Drug taking is widespread & not restricted to the

> clientle of the FHT - its pretty obvious on LL,

> but not done in open sight - the debris is easy to

> see in the various bogs

>

> Anyway., as long as this venue contnues ( I assume

> ) to make money from these nights, there will be

> precious little that can be done in reality - just

> make sure you document everything to the soft cops

> at every opportunity

>

> Failing that, pubs & clubs popularity peak and

> then decline rapidly - that may change the owners

> perspective

Thanks for the voice of reason snorky, won't bother replying to the mad rant above, it's too, well, mad. But as you say reporting everything to the powers that be is the best way forward for anyone bothered by it and who thinks it's worthwhile trying to do something about it. See booboo's post above re David Swaby the licencing chap.

[Booboo2008]

Could everyone who is affected by the noise / late night commotion coming from the FHT's so-called club-nights, please contact Southwark Council's noise team 24 hour hotline on 020 7525 5777 or the police before things get even more out of hand. And before I upset someone.... I'm not a party pooper/killjoy, just a local who is keen to get a good night's sleep at the weekend and not have violent / threatening behaviour in close proximity of my home. Many thanks

[ruthb]

why not approach the pub itself?

[ruthb]

It's close proximity to our home too but there seems to only be a few people who are acting like the Brixton riots have descended on their doorsteps. Why do you have to make faceless complaints about issues that you feel so strongly about? Just get a group together and arrange a meeting with the pub and let them know your feelings. I'm sure their are some journos amongst you that can present a decent and level argument.

I've realised that fatty aka Les Dawson aka fightfightersforever is clearly no fan of mine so I expect some abuse from her in some form but you know.. water off a ducks back. I just feel you are being a little reactionary and I think involving yourself more in your local pubs ventures would be a worthwhile thing to do. Get the power back in a positive way.

[AllforNun]

in response to Sean 'Tablets from the mountain' Macgabhann

"ruthb may have inadvertantly got off to a ropey start and as candj says, hopefully that will be sorted "

what a load of cobblers, since when did you decide what's ropey and what's not ? i thought ruthb got off to a great start. If you climbed forest hill and came back down with some tablets from the internet god of blogging which clearly contain a set of commandments then fair enough, if not however then poppycock to you and your "ropey starts". Bait this is not my stone carving friend.

[SimonM]

Sean, whom I have never met, was doing no more than express a personal opinion, as do we all - well most of us I think. Again like most of us he did this without descending to personal abuse. But all this is a diversion from the topic of the thread anyway...

[AllforNun]

Well it would be difficult to meet an internet persona and there is nothing descending or personal about my comments unless he/she/automation/gifted animal does carve stone.

Ruthb pops up and is immediately patronised with the comment "........you told off for what is esentially rude behaviour".

it's bleedin obvious when the EDF circle their wagons. Just take it on the chin and live with it .....ruthb is a local drinks there, dances there and most of the regulars at the FHT would love to meet you so stop typing and stick your head in .... and if any one says "i've been a regular for 10 years and ....blah blah blah...." then i will not post here until the second hand goes round the clock face in one rotation.

any noise tonight ? BRAP BRAP

[David Mc]

Does this win the accolade for most off-the-wall post ever?!

[jodevious]

snorky Wrote:

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> Does leaving the venue quietly also include the

> popping of caps in asses Jo ?

Only heard about this today and it's very sad to hear that somebody was shot outside of The FHT.

I must reiterate that the shooting had nothing to do with my event, which was on the 6th September and I hope you all appreciate that I stuck to my word regarding noise as we didn't receive any complaints on this forum or otherwise.

In any case, it's onwards and upwards for me as I now have a larger and more suited venue booked for the next three months, so probably my last post on this forum.

Best wishes and good luck with sorting out the problems with The FHT. I would personally recommend a meeting with the owners as they seem like decent enough people to me who are just trying to make a living.

[AllforNun]

Ta DaveMc duly accepted

i'll stick it on my shelf alongside my matchstick replica of the forest hill tavern !

[David Mc]

Would some action men look out of place beside it?

[tibby]

someone got shot in leg there last sat night only a small piece in tuesdays slp