Harvester

[MrBen]

It's an interesting enough site for the Dulwich Estate to do something a little more creative with this time given this land is on the fringes of the estate. It would be nice to see them drop their ultra conservative approach for once and to consider more progressive ideas - using their charitable status to endorse some kind of co-funded mixed housing /workspace project for key workers/local start ups?.

[tiddles]

Oh Mr Ben you do make me laugh. Other than protecting their interests I very much doubt they give two hoots about anyone else.

[GinaG3]

We get all the leaflets regarding the site as we are neighbours. I believe from a few sources that Dulwich Estate want it's usage to stay the same, bar and grill or very similar. The rumours of Tesco and McDonalds we have all heard are just never going to happen.. Dulwich Estate will just sit on it until something they like comes along, I'm sure. It is getting a bit of an eyesore though, and I keep seeing people in the car park at 1am loitering round. What happened to the security that were always parked outside? Put there just after they boarded up after removing squatters last year..

[Louisa]

I disagree MrBen. The Dulwich Extate is ultra conservative for good reason. They have defended the interests of this unique corner of London to protect it from development for generations. Developing it into a mixed use residential/workspace would more than likely see the loss of yet more greenery and it will end up just like every other corner of inner London. I'm sure most locals would vigorously oppose any residential development and rightly so. Make use of the Grove Tavern again please, some decent pub company!

Louisa.

[Jah Lush]

stevie23b Wrote:

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> take your rose tinted glasses off lush. honestly

> i know for a fact that the half moon and the

> harvester are to be developed

No you don't. Where or what is your source? Show some proof. You haven't got any have you.

[tiddles]

Good point Louisa - they have probably protected the area from many hideous schemes. I think it is their charitable status that needles me.

whole different discussion so I will quietly retire??

[stevie23b]

lush you will see in due course i am only giving locals a heads up

[Jah Lush]

Yeah, of course you are.

[stevie23b]

look a the situation half moon the flood was a dream come true for d e they have submitted planning there 18 months ago but they had trouble closing the pub .

[Sue]

stevie23b Wrote:

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> look a the situation half moon the flood was a

> dream come true for d e they have submitted

> planning there 18 months ago but they had trouble

> closing the pub .

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If, as you say, you are "giving locals a heads up" about the Harvester site, perhaps you could provide some evidence of what you are supposedly giving us a heads up about?

[stevie23b]

who do you think i am columbo !! provide evidence. would my sources name address and phone number number do ? well i am sorry i cant do that . he/she would lose their job

[haruki]

But as far as I've heard, they're not proposing to close the half moon. Although they do want to add some upstairs flats.

[Pugwash]

There was talk of a Travel Lodge in a southern part of Southwark, this site would be ideal for a Travel Lodge or small premier inn. We could do with some budget hotels at this end of Dulwich. I know we have the Queens at the Palace and a Travel Lodge in Penge but it would be good to have something here which has disabled facilities i.e. lifts etc.

[Jeremy]

It's a no-mans-land between ED, the village, and Forest Hill. A pub wouldn't work. A restauarant would have to be bloody good to get people down there. A supermarket might work if there's enough parking there.

[Jah Lush]

It worked before and it can work again.

[jimbo1964]

I miss it. The garden was great in the summer.

[SteveUK1978]

We went for Sunday lunch at the Dulwich Wood House pub yesterday - I would categorise that as out of the way as well, but it was packed. A big, family friendly pub would probably still work on that site if there was a nice big beer garden for the summer and a decent car park as it couldn't rely on passing footfall.

Still think a hotel would be better there.

[Jeremy]

I would be delighted to be proved wrong.

[Louisa]

What's wrong with the idea of a hotel with a pub/restaurant connected to it? I'm thinking along the lines of premier inn with a beefeater type scenario.

Louisa.

[Bic Basher]

It won't happen due to the Dulwich Estate's protectionism, but McDonalds is probably another viable option for the site, it's on the South Circular so would attract passing custom.

However, I'd like to see the return of a pub/restaurant or a hotel.

[*Bob*]

I'd like to see it turned into an abattoir, perhaps in tandem with a Currys electrical showroom.

[Townleygreen]

I remember the old Grove pub was usually packed on weekday evenings - this was the 70s.

[StraferJack]

I see no reason why the site can?t work as a pub/restaurant

But I can say why I think it hasn?t worked in many years

The various pubcos who owned the place (most recently Stonegate. Before them, Mitchel and Butler) were very confused about what they thought it should be but more damagingly, never seemed to employ/pay enough for good staff and management

In the 13 years I used to (occasionally) go there the one constant was very disinterested staff, sticky tables and a general sense of decay.

I wouldn?t for a moment think that another Antic or Capital pub in the area would automatically be a good thing ? but I would be fairly certain that if they did take it on they would make a good go of it (they may well have already investigated and done their own sums to be fair)

It is a bit of a no mans land, true ? but people did try and go there, only to be constantly let down

All that said the Hotel/bar combo would be a good fit as well

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Perhaps it should be an abattoir in tandem with curries. From hoof to plate should be a USP.

[*Bob*]

Or something Italian. A 'trottoria', perhaps?