Londis, Lordship Lane

[Oggy]

Just picked up from this link that Londis on the corner of Northcross Road and Lordship Lane has put its lease on the market http://www.rapleys.co.uk/property/london-se22-8hu/retail-premises/354/ I find this slightly surprising in view of the fact that the store always seems busy. I suppose there is a lot more local competetion now in the convenience market. This is quite a lot bigger than most other stores on Lordship Lane, which probably rules out another trendy boutique, but not really big enough for a Tesco Express, or Sainsbury's Local type of operation. I will be watching with interest

[DulwichFox]

?72,000 per annum (?197.00 per day)

Needs to be busy.

DulwichFox.

[lane lover]

Is it just me, or do some people appear to have way too much time on their hands?

What type of person trawls the internet for this sort of stuff?

[Oggy]

A chartered surveyor who works as a retail agent .... ?

[Jeremy]

Just because the lease is being sold, does it necessarily mean the tenants (londis) are leaving?

[DulwichFox]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Just because the lease is being sold, does it

> necessarily mean the tenants (londis) are leaving?

Why would they sell the lease then have to pay someone 'Ground Rent' to stay there. ?

DulwichFox

[Cora]

The Lane is absolutely crawling with surveyor/development types today....

[Oggy]

It appears from the the details I have seen that Londis is seeking to sell its lease held for a term of 15 years from 22 October 2004, subject to five yearly rent reviews at a passing rent of ?72,000 pax, fixed at review with effect from 22 October 2009, for an asking premium of ?100K. This would therefore involve Londis handing over the property with vacant possession to an "assignee", rather than granting a new sub-lease and maintaining its interest in the property

[Oggy]

Cora - I have lived locally with my family for 15 years. It has changed a lot. Did you prefer the Lane when it was full of fried chicken shops, betting offices, hair salons and looked like every other neighbourhood shopping street in south London?

[nxjen]

Oggy Wrote:

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> Cora - I have lived locally with my family for 15

> years. It has changed a lot. Did you prefer the

> Lane when it was full of fried chicken shops,

> betting offices, hair salons and looked like every

> other neighbourhood shopping street in south

> London?

Can you remind me when this was?

[Zebedee Tring]

Perhaps Waitrose or M&S will take over the store (irony alert).

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Oggy Wrote:

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> Cora - I have lived locally with my family for 15

> years. It has changed a lot. Did you prefer the

> Lane when it was full of fried chicken shops,

> betting offices, hair salons and looked like every

> other neighbourhood shopping street in south

> London?

Yes, when exactly was this fried chicken festooned race course?

[lizzie]

Lordship Lane in the early 90s (I moved 1992) was dire indeed and a very depressing place, especially after Sainsburys opened and the greengrocer and butchers (Le Chardon now) closed and Northcross Road was wall to wall hairdressers. I remember when the Blue Mountain cafe opened (1993??) and after that the domino effect began

[edcam]

Yes, I moved to ED in 1995 and apart from Blue Mountain and Le Chardon there was nothing of any note.

[Otta]

nxjen Wrote:

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> Oggy Wrote:

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> > Cora - I have lived locally with my family for

> 15

> > years. It has changed a lot. Did you prefer the

> > Lane when it was full of fried chicken shops,

> > betting offices, hair salons and looked like

> every

> > other neighbourhood shopping street in south

> > London?

>

> Can you remind me when this was?

Exactly, I don't ever remember a Lane full of fried chicken shops. The most it ever had was 2, Favourite, which is still there (and long may it stay), and the speedo pizza place was once a chicken shop. That's it. There were one or two betting shops I'll grant you, and there are probably more hair places now than ever before.

Are you sure you're thinking of the same Lordship Lane?

Shame, because this made me laugh.

Oggy Wrote:

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> A chartered surveyor who works as a retail agent.... ?

[Sue]

lizzie Wrote:

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> Lordship Lane in the early 90s (I moved 1992) was

> dire indeed and a very depressing place,

> especially after Sainsburys opened and the

> greengrocer and butchers (Le Chardon now) closed

> and Northcross Road was wall to wall hairdressers.

> I remember when the Blue Mountain cafe opened

> (1993??) and after that the domino effect began

xxxxxx

I moved to ED in 1991. I didn't find Lordship Lane "dire and depressing" at all!

When was Northcross Road "wall to wall hairdressers"?

If memory serves, there was a butcher, a cobbler, a newsagent, a Greek deli, a greengrocer (still there), amongst other things.

To the best of my recollection there was a barber (still there) and one hairdresser. What were the other hairdressers?

I agree the opening of the Blue Mountain was the start of the gentrification of ED :(

[Louisa]

There certainty seems interest already. Guy from Space NK was there a few weeks ago looking around.

Louisa.

[Oggy]

I thought this was interesting local gossip. Never wanted to start a debate about the evils of gentrification, or chartered surveyors. Just sorry to have churned up so much simmering resentment. East Dulwich is dead .. long live East Dulwich!

[cle]

Oggy, I found it interesting and exactly what the board is about. Ignore the coal-digging chicken eaters and tedious class obsessives.

[adonirum]

Well, Oggy, I can inform you that it used to be a Tesco store.

Does my 40+ yrs trump your 15 yrs? (Won't say how many "plus")!

[Otta]

I remember it as the Tesco way back until it became 7/11 in the early to mid 80s.

Oggy I found this thread interesting too, and am pleased you shared. I just didn't recognise the description of Lordship Lane you gave that's all.

[nxjen]

cle Wrote:

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> Oggy, I found it interesting and exactly what the

> board is about. Ignore the coal-digging chicken

> eaters and tedious class obsessives.

Nothing to do with eating chicken or class, more a desire for an accurate description of what East Dulwich was like before, well, let's call it gentrification.

[Otta]

cle Wrote:

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> tedious class obsessives.

So says the first person to use the word "class" on this thread.

[Bluerevolution]

My wife remembers when the Palmerston was a den of iniquity (25 years ago) She and her friends used to come over (age 15 or so) get pissed and score various types of illegal drugs. LL has had a bad rep in the past, stories from her father (76) are hilarious.

[Otta]

It's still pretty easy to score illegal drugs on Lordship Lane! But yeah, the stories you hear about the Palmerston, The Mag and The EDT certainly aren't in keeping with today's ED.