BrandNewGuy Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 RosieH Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> And Otta - dressing up is for kids? Singularly> joyless. I'm currently torn between wearing my> velvet minnie mouse ears or my red velvet Snow> White bow headband for the Godfathers gig tonight.I'll look out for you. I'm torn between my funeral suit or my man-at-Cotton-Traders middle-aged dad look... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosieH Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Otta Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Dressing up for a gig or a party is one thing.> Dressing up to walk down the street so people will> look at you is quite another.> > But I think we've all got the message Rosie,> you're like, uber cool and way more tuned in than> the rest of us. Bravo.I'm really not. I used to be - I used to be on first name terms with the doormen at the Hacienda, but that was 20 years ago. I now have Limahl on my gym playlist and I love Poirot and Death in Paradise (kudos, MikeP). But I've reached an age where I don't care so much what people think about me - I wear what I like when I like, I wear clothes that make me happy, and I might bring out a headband or a 1960s housecoat when I'm just walking down the street. You know what, legwarmers keep my legs warm, AND they make me feel like I'm in a Jane Fonda video. SCORE!You're as likely to think I look preposterous as I am to think your short sleeved shirts are horrid. But they wouldn't make me want to smack you in the face, which is something you've expressed on here. I just like people who have fun and don't sneer at other people. I can't think that sneering feels very much like fun, so it's just not for me. But the rest of you, fill your boots.And BNG, I've settled on the red velvet bow - come find me. I'll buy you a pint of unironic beer. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 RosieH Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> But I've reached an age where I don't care so much> what people think about me And that right there is where you're different from the people we're talking about. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 And I don't really wear short sleeved shirts. I own one. , like you, wear what I am comfortable in, safe in the knowledge that no one is ever going to whisper to their friend "check out that stylish guy".I've never really been on trend. I still loved Guns N Roses and guitar solos when I was supposed to like Nirvana. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyDeliah Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I still don't get why people give a shit about what other people wear or the tribe they want to belong to, to be honest. Life is too short. If that kind of stuff gets you gritting your teeth or wanting to hit people, I suggest you find something more interesting to do with your own life. Sex seems to help. Maybe you'll give less of a shit if you were getting some. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabag Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Otta Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> no one is ever> going to whisper to their friend "check out that> stylish guy".You think so, not even 'ironically' ?Your're part of the 'honestly, I don't give a damn' style tribe alreadyI met another one last night on The Crustconductor, but this one was wet/sweaty/drunk and deffo part of the same movementHe 'didn't give a damn' either and reminded me of that regularly during the evening Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Why did you stay in his company for the evening? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Seabag Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Your're part of the 'honestly, I don't give a> damn' style tribe alreadyNo I'm not, I do give a damn. I worry as much as the next person about looking okay when I go out. I just don't care about what a particular trend dictates that I wear, and wear what I feel good in, which according to Rosie is horrid. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
titch juicy Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 RosieH Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Heh, no it's not. 1988?! I'm a little too young> for that, you mofos! But thanks, Quidlington -> does look like me and I did sport a spiral perm at> the time.> > Now then, Peebster, I know you are sincere, but> how can I put this kindly? On this, you're an> idiot! I think you're drawing too many inferences> based on your own hypothesis. Victoriana has been> a thing for ages. The nice Time for Tea man on> Shoreditch High Street has been sporting his> handsome moustaches for years - once considered an> eccentricity, now a subject for ridicule by the> be-gileted masses? Are Steampunkers hipsters?> Where do the neon 80s revivalists and the> lumberjacks fit with your workhouse appropriation> narrative? What makes you so sure that other> people's love of tweed is ironic where David> Carnell's is virtuous?> > At university in psychoanalysis, we learned to> draw conclusions from the evidence before us, not> seek to find confirmation of our own supposition!> (apply winky face, if you can bear it)> > I'm good friends with many people a lot of> commenters on this thread would call hipsters. > Artists, musicians, DJs, actors, film makers, tech> entrepreneurs, weird 'quirky' events organisers in> their 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s. Without exception,> they are pursuing their passions with conviction> and determination, and they are genuine and> enthusiastic when others do likewise.> > Not one of them is living off the "bank of mummy> and daddy" (hmm, cliche much?).> > There is a joy about them, because they're having> fun and loving what they do. It's refreshing and> inspiring and something that is utterly lacking> from this thread. Without exception, I have never> once heard any of them sneer at anyone else,> again, something I cannot say about this thread,> some of which makes for pretty ugly reading.> > And Otta - dressing up is for kids? Singularly> joyless. I'm currently torn between wearing my> velvet minnie mouse ears or my red velvet Snow> White bow headband for the Godfathers gig tonight.I've found love on Valentine's Day Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 > I'm good friends with many people a lot of> commenters on this thread would call hipsters.> Artists, musicians, DJs, actors, film makers, tech> entrepreneurs, weird 'quirky' events organisers in> their 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s. Without exception,> they are pursuing their passions with conviction> and determination, and they are genuine and> enthusiastic when others do likewise. None of those sound like the people I'm thinking of. I think half the problem is that no one is talking about the same people. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabag Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 I'm guessing it's anyone daring to sport a "look" that's up for derision here Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsebox Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Seabag Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I'm guessing it's anyone daring to sport a "look"> that's up for derision hereYes. How dare they, the utter bastards. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Has any of this actually been bile spitting hatred? The answer is no.When I use a term like "makes me want to slap them" it's not like I see these people and genuinely have an urge to physically do them harm. But now this thread has turned in to somewhere for the enlightened to show how above petty judgements they are (and to just be openly rude to specific people).I'm totally confused now anyway, as "Hipster" now seems to be describing everyone remotely arty (God even I'm a bit creative) or who goes out in East London. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBen Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 It's entirely possible to pursue your dreams, be independently creative and self actualise to some extent....whilst looking like a total square. (Not sure a headband would improve my lot tbh) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 On no, I went to Hoxton last week! I'm going to flagellate myself immediately. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabag Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Basically it's jealously lite How dare you, whilst 'we' struggle within the othodox uniformAnd "you lot" get to express yourselves/be successful/do what you like/move Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyDeliah Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Seabag Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Basically it's jealously lite > > How dare you, whilst 'we' struggle within the> othodox uniform> > And "you lot" get to express yourselves/be> successful/do what you like/moveI reckon this about sums it up. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabag Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Otta Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Why did you stay in his company for the evening?I know his work and he's very funny (in measured doses) when off his faceEven funnier when he insists on riding in the back of my pick-up in the rainThankfully it was only a short trip from Brick Brewery to The Gowlett Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Riding on the back of a pick up in the rain sounds fun. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBen Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Seabag = HipsterAnyway....I'll see all you out-of-shape middle-aged suburban pub-dads soon. On the basis of Rosie single handedly winning this one I'm off to hang with her dressed up as a dinosaur. And if the rest of you don't like it that's fine, I'll leave you to mumble about the weather and gentrification into your pint of bishops sock. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Seabag Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> And "you lot" get to express yourselves/be successfulIt only gets my goat when it's not so much "expressing yourself", and more following a uniform and becoming a walking cliche. Not exclusive to these hipster types of course... I felt much the same way about most "tribes". Punk, casuals, metallers, "madchester", whatever. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomou Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I haven't read every page so apologies if I'm repeating something already said, but I just have to laugh at the irony of Otta criticising the 'hipsters' at DHFC with an argument that boils down to "I liked Dulwich Hamlets before it was cool". I think I know who the real hipster is here... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Otta is the hipster's hipster. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 jomou Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I haven't read every page so apologies if I'm> repeating something already said, but I just have> to laugh at the irony of Otta criticising the> 'hipsters' at DHFC with an argument that boils> down to "I liked Dulwich Hamlets before it was> cool". > > I think I know who the real hipster is here...You're 10 pages out of date mate. I've since made friends with all the people talking about DHFC on pages 1 and 2.Peace Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/43612-hipsters/page/20/#findComment-823674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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