Hipsters

[Earl Aelfheah]

I like eating chips

#chipster

[RosieH]

Otta Wrote:

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> I'm certainly not talking about any of the people

> Rosie earlier mentioned. And I'm definitely not

> talking about the successful people Seabag

> mentioned.

>

> I'm talking about the people that have ensured

> that when I went to look for some new glasses,

> EVERY bloody pair was thick black rimmed.

... Except the bit

> about dressing up as Edwardian gentry (which by

> the way I'd never have labelled hipster - which is

> another example of how no one actually knows what

> a hipster is). I just find that particular group

> of junior right wingers a bit distasteful.

Dude. If your issue is just with spectacles, shouldn't you be berating graphic designers..?

Not sure how you know that you're not talking about any of the people I mentioned. I failed to state that the friends I mentioned earlier also have a penchant for hipster clothes: neon, 80s batwing jumpers, snow-washed denim, assymetric hairstyles, Victoriana and Edwardiana. Not all at once (usually). That would be ridiculous. There are a couple of beards too.

A point that I think has been missed is the way a lot of these trends are born out of a lack of finances. People working in retail / doing the door in clubs to support their street art habit don't have the disposable income to dress head to toe in Gap. Hence second hand clothes and the cheapest frames at the opticians. Then a momentum builds, a trend develops, and suddenly the thick black frames are in the Karen Millen range at Specsavers. Karen Millen (!) - purveyors of synthetic fibres used to denote the Made in Essex type of hard-faced fake-tanned french-manicured strumpet who's no better than she ought to be by wardrobe departments across the land.

Without wanting to labour a point, I'm just saying you can't judge a book by its day-glo cover.

[Earl Aelfheah]

.. unless it's a book about day-glo colours.

[Jeremy]

RosieH Wrote:

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> I failed to state that the friends I mentioned earlier also

> have a penchant for hipster clothes: neon, 80s

> batwing jumpers, snow-washed denim, assymetric

> hairstyles, Victoriana and Edwardiana.

Batwing jumpers? I need to keep up here.

Must be tough, being such an individual.

[miga]

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[Seabag]

uncleglen Wrote:

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> It isn't complicated - if you see a man with a

> well-developed beard that is groomed to within an

> inch of its life- it is on a hipster imvho

So that puts Jeremy Beadle & George Micheal in your 'Hipster' gallery ?

Oh and George Clooney

Hmmm....

[Jeremy]

Hipster

 

[Otta]

Admittedly I can't say with certainty that I wouldn't call the people you're describing as hipsters. Because I lack the psychic ability to know who you were thinking of. I was going by the friends of yours that I've been introduced to, or seen on social media. And by band videos you've shared. Haven't ever seen one of those and thought hipster.

I think you make a fair point about cash flow for clothes, but I disagree that having to buy second hand means you have to dress in a particular way. We all have our budgets (my clothing budget is tiny) and we choose what to buy with it.

I don't judge books by cover, and thinking someone looks a bit silly does not mean I make any judgement about them as a person. But equally human nature means that we're likely to be drawn towards the books that we think we'll enjoy the most.

But again we're talking about different people. You're talking about the people that bought the thick rimmed glasses out of necessity. I'm not.

ETA response to RosieH but started it an hour ago and got side tracked so cross posted.

[Jeremy]

Otta Wrote:

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> You're talking about the people that bought the thick rimmed glasses out of necessity.

Red herring. That never happened. At no point in my lifetime have thick black rimmed glasses been the only cheapo glasses available.

It's also true that they became fashionable about 20 years ago, long before the word "hipster" had made it across the pond or beards were vaguely cool - or even OK.

[Earl Aelfheah]

I couldn't care less how somebody chooses to dress. If pushed to have an opinion on it, I probably prefer to see people taking risks with how they look, having fun with clothes and being creative. I know...Inevitably people will say "but they're all the same, they're clones", but for a group of people to be different enough as to be clearly identifiable as such, they clearly aren't. It also assumes that those levelling the criticism aren't a like themselves, when quite clearly, by being 'other', they are. Basically, what I'm trying to say (perhaps not very eloquently), is why disparage people for the way they dress? Especially, if they're doing it in a thoughtful, joyful manner (even perhaps with a little irony)?

[Otta]

No-one is discouraging anyone. They're just taking the piss, it's not malicious, and it's all part of the fun.

[Jah Lush]

Our very own Queen of Hipsterdom has spoken. All bow down to her superior knowledge, her sartorial whimsy and cooler than thou personality. You have been told. Now shut the fcuk up.

End of thread.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Eh? Who?

[Jah Lush]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> Eh? Who?

Tut tut. You really shouldn't have to ask.

[StraferJack]

"No-one is discouraging anyone. They're just taking the piss, it's not malicious, and it's all part of the fun."

Bantz!!

[Earl Aelfheah]

@Otta - yeah, you're right, it is *mainly* just people having a laugh, but then I remember growing up in a small town where looking a bit different would get you a hard time. Never understood why people cared how others choose to look / live - so perhaps I do have a bit of a humour deficit with this kind of thing. Just reminds me of the kind of parochialism to which London (to my young mind) represented an escape.

[miga]

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[Robert Poste's Child]

Or to borrow a classic from the Dulwich Raider, Boy Georgian with a hint of Jedwardian.

[miga]

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[Seabag]

Surely inspired by Quinten Crispp and his

"Stately Homo" quip

[david_carnell]

I own a Saab.

I am most certainly not a free thinker. I just like the fact that I pretend to be a jet pilot in the Swedish Air Force. *makes jet plane and machine gun noises*

With a barbour jacket and duck boots (http://www.theguardian.com/fashion/fashion-blog/2014/dec/08/ll-bean-duck-boots-five-month-waiting-list) natch.

No beard though. More due to a lack of masculinity than a fashion issue.

I sense I'm falling between some gaps. Help.

[Robert Poste's Child]

According to Wikipedia, hipsters have liberal values, so you're probably safe.

[Salsaboy]

If you own a Saab you must be an Architect.

[Jah Lush]

An architect of his own misfortune.

[Louisa]

Can we stop giving hipsters all this publicity please? The shaggy irony of looking like a tramp and drinking a cocktail out of a jam jar is lost on everyone other than Guardian readers who hope their area of London is next to be "hipsterfied" so that property prices increase.

Louisa.