One for the Boxing fans!

[Jeremy]

Chisora is a crude slugger with no movement - but I still think he would flatten Gammer with ease! He'd probably be out of his depth against Brewster though.

[david_carnell]

I be surprised if some Finnish guy at 6'6" and 18 stone didn't have good power!

Nonetheless, I'll take a look so I seem like I predicted his success when he cleans up the division in a few years.

[KidKruger]

Funny thing is he doesn't have that 'boxers physique', a bit like Calzaghe, looks like a regular guy wearing shorts.

I reiterate I'm not saying he'll change the history of boxing but I like to watch him.

I watch the Marco Huck v Denis Lebedev Cruiser contest recently (it actually took place about year ago I think), what daylight robbery, Huck acted like it was obviously his decision when it was announced. In the press conference Lebedev and team were sick. I think Lebedev stitched Macarinelli, that's how I know about him.

[taper]

Tyson Fury! Hardest name in boxing.

[KidKruger]

Yeah, hardest name to not laugh at.

[Jeremy]

Tyson Fury is a plonker with a fat gut. He needs to get down the gym a bit more.

Love that clip of him punching himself in the face. Brilliant.

[taper]

Steve Bunce rates him. His dad's just been sent down for 12 years. And he's undefeated (I think). Given the dearth of heavyweight talent at the moment, I could see him doing a bit.

[KidKruger]

That's exactly it Taper, in TODAY's time TF can maybe go somewhere but the heavyweight division is weak and the best don't fight the best anymore.

[taper]

Indeed. But then only Holmes, Tyson and Lewis have been of a standard in the last thirty yearsto compare with what went before. Fury's on a par with Gerry Cooney.

[Jeremy]

I actually think if Bruno was around today, he'd be a contender... not quite up there with the K's, but he'd give Haye a damn good fight.

[KidKruger]

I'd suggest Haye would take Bruno in 4-6, possibly earlier, Bruno was not fast, if he caught Haye he'd hurt him obviously but Haye's a good mover and I think he would out-manoeuvre Bruno. It's all fantasy anyway we'll never know !!

[Keef]

Wlad calls of fight with Chisora, due to injury apparently. Hopefully this means there is nothing else standing in the way of a fight with Haye...

Sounds like Matthew Hatton was soundly beaten last night.

[KidKruger]

Knowing Vlad / the Klistchkos, Chisora was always a fight that held little meaning and it was almost ditched before, IMO it has been an 'option' to use or discard depending on what else could be lined-up elsewhere.

Last time the fight was in jeopardy, Chisora said he would not 'allow' Vlad to by-pass him. My hunch is that if Haye is now on the cards, Vlad wants to make sure he is absolutely ready.

Wasn't too interested in Hatton, never really seen too much impressive in him but George Groves won his contest which means next for him is James DeGale, which will be a nice domestic bout.

Also, Khan has said that he's pencilled in a date for Timothy Bradley on I think July 23rd, this is interesting given that Khan has yet to meet unbeaten McKloskey (the European LWW champ) in the UK, beforehand. Bradley beat Junior Witter and is also unbeaten. If Khan beats Bradley, he'll (in theory, at least) tie-up the LWW division and be recognised the ruler there. He next plans to go up to full WW and attempt to dominate there. I'm all for moving-up a weight division but I don't thnk anyone 'rules' a weight class until they've seen off a few solid contenders, ie. Devon Alexander and Maidana (or someone equally good) again, followed by Prescott (who needs to first resurrect his standing in the division).

[KidKruger]

Looks like Robert Helenius, who I'd mentioned earlier, is soon facing Samuel Peter who has fought (and lost to) both Klitschkos. He dropped Vladimir 3 times in 2005 before losing on points. Samuel was WBC Heavyweight champion until losing to Vitali. This may answer the 'who has he fought ?' question.

Peter is a deadly puncher too so could be a barnstormer. Bout is April 12th.

[Jeremy]

I don't rate Samuel Peter at all - another fat, lumbering HW. Still... at least he's a name.

[Jeremy]

It would seem that Helenius defeated Samuel Peter without too much trouble... moving up the rankings nicely in the process.

Meanwhile, Amir Khan has failed to get a TV deal for the McCloskey fight. I guess Sky didn't want to do a PPV, as on paper it's a mismatch, and they didn't want another Haye/Audley fiasco.

[KidKruger]

I think the Khan fight is on Primetime Internet PPV for anyone who hadn't got Sky access.

Helenius has a long way to go, there's so little talent at HW that any promise is regarded as next best thing.

He hits hard but is hittable, needs defence working on, can't rely on long arms.

[KidKruger]

Slightly shocked at the way the Khan fight was stopped, there was a cut (from head clash) to McKloskey, there was blood dripping into his eye, but the corner never got a chance to work on it. The doctor saw the cut and stopped the contest immediately. Not a shocking cut though. Given the fact that there are some real magician cut men and McKloskey was not hurt and was still very much in the fight, it's a disappointing end to the contest.

McKloskey is fuming, fans are fuming, Khan will never offer a re-match. Unfinished business IMO.

BTW I'd like to see Robert Helenius to face Tyson Fury.

[SCSB79]

McCloskey didn't exactly make it look like he wanted to continue....

[KidKruger]

interesting comment, he never turned his back on his opponent, was making Khan miss and was by the look of things trying to slow Khan down by tiring him. I heard a report that he said to the Doctor he didn't want to continue, but that doesn't fit his outrage when the fight was stopped by the ref !

SCSB79 - How do you think McKloskey appeared to NOT want to continue ?!

[jumpinjackflash]

Haye/Klitschko fight confirmed as 2nd July in Germany

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12184_6923288,00.html

[Jeremy]

Heavyweight Boxing needs Haye/Klitschko. Let's hope there are no more incidents or mysterious injuries!

KidKruger Wrote:

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> BTW I'd like to see Robert Helenius to face Tyson Fury.

On the strength of the Samual Peter fight, I think it's reasonable to assume that it would end very badly for Fury...

[taper]

Fury's the future; i tell you!

Haye inside 4 I reckon.

[Jeremy]

Who thought Groves would/could beat Degale? As domestic-level fights go, that was a cracker.

Congrats to Hopkins - incredible acheivement to win the title at the age of 46. He's not the most exciting fighter around, but he's certainly crafty and very effective. Pascal was very gracious in defeat.

[Otta]

I for one am very pleased for Groves. I can't claim that I expected him to win, but I was hoping he would. He comes across as an honest lad. DeGale did himself no favours in the build up, and couldn't back up his cockiness inside the ring.