Crown and Greyhound (Dog)

[????]

It's all about the money

[Mick Mac]

Presumably M&B as the previous tenant of the pub made a planning request to DE, rather than there being any other bidders or proposals for the site or any choice for DE to make.

But yes, they could have perhaps had a tender process, although that might have depended upon the existing M&B lease if they had one.

In general though I'd be interested to know the cost of a lease of a retail unit in the Village as compared to a similar one in Lordship Lane. Its often quoted as the reason why the Village only has chains, as only they can afford the lease costs, but it might be that the Village is just a bit sh1t, sleepy, elderly, lack of footfall, lack of life, atmosphere etc - I mean I suspect most of the locals come to the Palmerston, Franklins, Yama Momo or even Le Chardon when they want to have a good meal and leave the M&B food to Dulwich Park visitors and hangers on.

[Otta]

I assumed that M&B were the lease holders and were behind this revamp.

[Jah Lush]

Otta Wrote:

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> I assumed that M&B were the lease holders and were

> behind this revamp.

More like Dulwich Estates bitches.

[malumbu]

Briliant M&B taking over, a proper Birmingham brewery with Brew IX and mild. That will be a shock to the gentrified masses.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/kpwilliams/images/brewxi.gif

And even better

http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/03/85/10/3851096_01116fc7.jpg

Actually I thought it was generally OK the Dog, and don't understand if a place is doing well why they have to change things

[Otta]

malumbu Wrote:

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> Briliant M&B taking over, a proper Birmingham

> brewery with Brew IX and mild. That will be a

> shock to the gentrified masses.

What, they'll be shocked that the same people that have had the pub for years (along with The Alleyns Head, and The Plough in Dulwich) still have the pub?

Yeah, shocking man.

[Seabag]

Oh what a shock, it's going to be another vanilla fest bland-o-rama

Like, who's even remotely suprised ?

[BrandNewGuy]

malumbu Wrote:

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> Briliant M&B taking over, a proper Birmingham

> brewery with Brew IX and mild. That will be a

> shock to the gentrified masses.

Alas they're no longer a brewery - they're just a pubco these days. Brew XI ("for the men of the Midlands")is now brewed by Brains, who themselves are owned by Coors. I remember serving in a pub in Brum in the early 80s and a very p*ssed punter moaned: "Two men have ruined my marriage." I asked, "Who?" He replied, "Mitchell and Butler..."

[malumbu]

Yep sadly I knew all of this, but thanks for commenting.

The Cape brewery went years ago and their Wolverhampton Springfield brewery stuggled on independently until it burned down.

Brew XI was pretty awful stuff and smelled of puke. But it was real puke!

Now Bathams, there is a different kettle of fish. And Bonks'

[Seabag]

malumbu Wrote:

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> Yep sadly I knew all of this, but thanks for

> commenting.

>

> The Cape brewery went years ago and their

> Wolverhampton Springfield brewery stuggled on

> independently until it burned down.

>

> Brew XI was pretty awful stuff and smelled of

> puke. But it was real puke!

>

> Now Bathams, there is a different kettle of fish.

> And Bonks'

A serious beer question Malumble

Where on the map does the 'beer pump with the foamy making head' thing stop

Watford or higher, it's always facinated me

?

[DadOf4]

has anybody got any info or heard any rumours about how the redevelopment is going or planned opening ?

Walking past recently, it looks like theyre a long way from finishing

#MissingFridayNightDogWalk

[Jah Lush]

Late summer apparently but don't hold your breath.

[DovertheRoad]

Agree with you Jah....looks like 5-6 months more work at least to me. Feck knows who's managing the works but i've seen projects of this scale move a lot quicker....

[Earl Aelfheah]

As it's main draw is the big garden, you would have thought they'd be moving heaven and earth to get it open in time for the summer. Does look a long way off completion though. :-(

[????]

Hadn't the big garden been closed- for sometime - prior to refurb?

[Earl Aelfheah]

I assume the garden will be part of the refurb though?

[????]

mmm - i think the issue with garden (complaints from neighbours) will remain as that's what stopped it in the first place. Also looks like they are building back a fair bit.

[Earl Aelfheah]

That's a shame, I didn't realise it had been closed because of noise complaints (seems a little unreasonable considering how long it's been there).

[Jah Lush]

That was 30 years ago Rahrahrah. That's why they loped off half the garden.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Oh right, that explains why I wasnt' aware of it. I was just talking about the garden as was. Anyway I look forward to the pub openign again, wish they'd get on with it.

[Mick Mac]

I've been waiting to get served at the Dog for 14 months now. But thought that wasn't that unusual so didn't complain. Didn't realise it was actually shut.

[malumbu]

You think that you have problems?

I've been waiting 20 years to be served at the Moore Park Hotel https://whatpub.com/pubs/SEL/11210/moore-park-hotel-forest-hill - just found out that is no longer serves alcohol

A few years ago I thought that I'd try the Dulwich Woodhouse. I pushed the front door, knocked at it, but it wouldn't be opened. There were people in there laughing and staring but no b would let me in (assume that it must be a bunch of freemasons).

In desparation I have gone to the Grove Tavern. Some nice outdoor seating but most unwelcoming and you have to bring your own booze.

So the Dog is in good company.

[steveo]

Have you tried the Half Moon?

[Jah Lush]

Or maybe try The Ivanhoe or The Oglander.

[DulwichFox]

Or further afield..

The Lord Hill... The Globe... Glengall Arms... The Maismore Arms... The Swan.. and finally The Shard Arms..

Quiet a Ghost Crawl..

Foxy