New Shops in Dulwich / Peckham

[Sue]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> It is a complete nightmare. Non stop lorries all

> day.

>

Fox, that is just totally untrue!

Unless they all come via Whateley Road and then do a u-turn outside your house so that they don't get as far down as mine :))

[Louisa]

I live nowhere near North cross so I wouldn't want to step on DF or Sue's toes on this one. My main concern is the relevance of the market and whether the pros outweigh the cons.

Louisa.

[DulwichFox]

Sue

Next door but one is having ?200'000. Worth of work done

The entire house I adds has been removed 40 skips changed every 2 3 days since June

Has now quiets down the place has been gutted

There have been 2 loft extns opposite

They drive passed you place in seconds you are hArdly

likely to notice them

The lorries are outside all day from 7.30 am

[DulwichFox]

Last post got corrupted

I'm typing on An iPod in the EDT

And lost the wi Fi

[maxxi]

I live close to NthX rd market - my experience is that the parking on surrounding streets is for all the local businesses including, but not restricted to, the market (judging by the shopping I see people returning to their cars with).

[Jeremy]

Of course, maxxi. I don't buy that any significant number of people drive into ED just for the little market.

[????]

Absolutely - people drive and go and have a look at the market and some shops and maybe a pub. You know supporting local businesses But you know 'some people'want the lane like it used to be, Icealand, a little record shop and some indian restaurants before all the blow ins ete etc etc etc etc. Just ignore them.

[Jeremy]

You might as well blame your mates who have moved out of the area, and sold their houses for fat stacks (yo)

[Louisa]

Quids, before Iceland and the indian restaurants? They're all still here, alongside the market. I don't think the Iceland store adds to parking worries, nor do the curry houses.

Louisa.

[Louisa]

If anything - the estate agent boom, caused by gentrification, has contributed to parking woes more than any of the other concerns combined x 10

Louisa.

[Jeremy]

Most of the estate agents have been here since before the gentrification really kicked off.

[MrBen]

Indeed. Like cockroaches they will always be there...

[cle]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> You might as well blame your mates who have moved

> out of the area, and sold their houses for fat

> stacks (yo)

Interesting angle Jeremy... why not blame 'right to buy' and greedy West Indians for cashing in and making Brixton the land of 'Champagne & Fromage' - rather than the blow ins?

[Jeremy]

Or maybe you could just accept that time doesn't stand still.

[Louisa]

Time doesn't stand still. Who wants vibrant neighborhoods with local characters and gritty working class London reality when you can make everywhere in London overly expensive, well educated, pretentious and socially homogenised en mass. These crazy poor people wanting to live and buy in the place they were born in, absolute nutters. Totally unreasonable.

Louisa.

[Jeremy]

We've still got local characters. You and Fox, for a start! Always there to brighten up the day!

If I'm honest, not all the changes in the area suit me either, and there are things I miss from 10-15 years ago. But what's the point in banging on about it? People come, people go. Places change. The majority of recent-ish arrivals are not pretentious, just people who want to live in London and have found an area they can afford which has a bit of green space and a few pubs and stuff.

[cle]

Middle and upper class folk come with their own 'characters' too - and everyone is in their own reality. I don't understand how struggling or having less is more 'real'.

And god forbid our society is well educated!

[????]

Here's some advice for the educated

Non pascentur, quod troglodytarum

[DulwichFox]

The market is not a new thing...

As I understand, back in the day. Not sure how far back.

There was a market from Lordship Lane right up to Crystal Palace Rd.

So I've been told.

Presumably there was not a parking problem back then.

And then shops on Upland Rd up to Barry Rd.

Indeed my shop was at 13 Upland rd. 1993.

Now 2 flats

So Foxy was indeed instigative of the first phase of regeneration.

DulwichFox

[Louisa]

Fox there was a market nearly the entire length of the street. But it was a proper market selling everything in those days.

Jeremy I am not sure if I'm a character or not but I have been told I resemble Joan Collins younger sister in certain poor lighting. Her name escapes me.

Louisa.

[????]

But by the early 90s just the one stall there if I remember rightly, so not forced out or anything

[MrBen]

And I had you down for a silver bob and Janet Street Porter glasses for some reason.....

[MrBen]

Louisa not you in drag quidsy

[MrBen]

I went to Yama Momo tonight. This is important. I went there, sat down and ate. I didn't "just pop in" as every cunt has it on twitter. They have some nice cocktails and decent whisky list. Food was okaaay. A credible mid-range Japanese option. RIP Inside 72 for I still crave thee.

Dessert at Franklins.

[maxxi]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Fox there was a market nearly the entire length of

> the street. But it was a proper market selling

> everything in those days.

A Local market... for Local people...

???? Wrote:

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> Non pascentur, quod troglodytarum

Nil desperandum Johanes*

*Roy Kinnear C1986