On the Ball (new Football Focus)

[Mick Mac]

Very good ratty, I liked that. Take your coat off and come back in.

[matthew123]

Atila Reincarnate Wrote:

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> Arrogant ronaldo

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> Discuss

I saw Wenger's quote on the BBC about Ronaldo's arrogance, "Sometimes his arrogance is provocative" ... which you might read between the lines as Wenger wishing he still had players like Tony Adams and Martin Keown..

It's a wonder that Ronaldo has never been seriously injured, although his style dictates that he dives over a tackle rather than making a 50-50 challenge so perhaps that is the reason.

For me, a player who has class, is complimentary about fellow players. You always hear likes of Torres, Rooney, Gerrard, Messi talking about other great players... but with Ronaldo all you get is, 'I am the 1st, 2nd and 3rd best in world' ... and this week telling a Newcastle player, 'You're a rubbish footballer'.

[Annasfield]

Ronaldo is the boy who cried wolf. Sometimes he is justified in his histrionics and others he's just play acting. Because of that, sometimes things just won't go his way. Rodney but Lionel, but he only has himself to blame.

Oh how I laughed on Sunday when he was booked for "that" dive/tackle.

An amazing footballer, but once of the most arrogant that has ever graced a football pitch. I think the "you're ugly" response was probably one of the worst things that Taylor could have said to him.

[matthew123]

LOL, you can imagine Ronaldo's jaw dropping and the tears streaming down his cheeks on that remark

[david_carnell]

Ronaldo does have a face only a mother could love. Or a WAG.

He just invokes a primal urge for violence. One stepover, two, three, SMACK!

There was an article in the paper today where Wenger called for more protection against thuggish players. Whilst I agree that constant dirty play and career-threatening tackles detract from skill and technique-based football it would me a shame if the fan-favourite "hardman" disappeared from the game.

[Sandperson]

Liverpool and Arsenal fans don't like Ronaldo shocker!

[ratty]

To be fair I don't think anyone likes the little coont!

[red devil]

You know your club is doing well when rival fans/managers feel they have to talk down your club instead of big-upping their own, you can taste the bitterness, long may it continue...

[Atila Reincarnate]

red devil Wrote:

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> You know your club is doing well when rival

> fans/managers feel they have to talk down your

> club instead of big-upping their own

I guess they're taking a leaf out of Fergusons book eh?

[matthew123]

Why doesn't anyone have a pop at Ryan Giggs. After all Giggs has a suitcase full of medals and has been there almost as long as Fergie. Anyway any idea why Giggs never gets any stick!?

Perhaps it is because he is the polar opposite of Ronaldo!

I've never heard anyone say a nice word about Ronaldo or Ferguson. Never.

[Atila Reincarnate]

Yes Matthew, well put.

[Sandperson]

It's like the Two Ronnies in here. And it's goodnight from me....

[Atila Reincarnate]

Two Ronnies? No pun intended? The man's got a point, Giggs is top player and has never(at least as far as I can remember) done anything to bring upon himself the kind of nonsense the show pony gets himself involved in. Giggs is a consumate professional. Happy now?

[matthew123]

And it'll be goodnight from him when he walks out on you at end of season.. without even so much as a handshake

[Sandperson]

He can do whatever he likes at the end of the season. I'm sure he'll be on his way. Still, how many more league titles has he won than any of your players since he's been in England? And European Cup! That'll do nicely I think.

[Keef]

SP what about this point do you disagree with? I've not read anyone saying Ron is not a great player, but do you think he's a lovely lad and sportsmanship personified?

[Annasfield]

What Keef said.

It seems to me that whenever someone makes a comment about a United player or Fergie, the only response we get from the manc supporters is a nasty swipe at a Liverpool or Arsenal player. Why not defend them?

[Sandperson]

I think he's a fabulous player with issues. I also think he is hacked at and abused by less talented players every week and I sometimes think he's justified in his reactions. I'd be interested to see how you'd reacted if he was a Liverpool player. I'd also be interested to know how Atila used to react when Pires tried his shenanigans week in, week out. Owen was/is a diver but I don't expect you to have a pop at him as an ex-Liverpool player.

[Jah Lush]

George Best was hacked at week in week out by real hardcases like Chopper Harris and Norman "Bites yer legs" Hunter but you never saw him diving or going down like a dying swan because he was a real man unlike Ronaldo who's a big girls blouse in comparison.

[Sandperson]

Ok, fine. All Liverpool players and Arsenal players are great. All United players (except Giggs) are indefensible arseholes. All referees are in the pay of United and Ferguson is a drunk. What's the point, whatever I say I get shot down.

[Atila Reincarnate]

Pires did dive, but why can't you take on the praise for Giggs which myself and others have given and balance it against the fact that Ronaldo is a tool, great player yes, but a tool nonetheless. Messi gets hacked at every single week without fail, the game against Real Madrid was shocking, but he just gest up and gets on with it. God alone knows how Fergie would react if Ronnie every got his leg broken like Eduardo by some jouneyman player.

[Sandperson]

Sorry, I didn't realise I was supposed to bow and scrape when you praised one of our players.

I'll doth my cap next time. I don't give a flying one whether you think Ronaldo is a tool, he is a great player, who Liverpool or Arsenal would take at the drop of a hat and let's face it there aren't many players in either of those teams that you could see going the other way.

[Atila Reincarnate]

Serves me right for saying what a good player Giggs is, still I didn't expect any other reaction from a Manc supporter. The fact that so many people are voicing the same sentiment about Ronnie boy should tell you something.

[Jah Lush]

Just to balance things up a bit. Paul Scholes is a great player too. He just can't tackle.

[david_carnell]

Or head.

And he is ginger.