On the Ball (new Football Focus)

[Ladygooner]

oh dear, we will have to do better next Tuesday.....

[Sandperson]

I thought that was a good game all round really. We played as well as I have seen since *the humiliation* by Liverpool. Still all to play for but I am glad they can't get an away goal!

[Atila Reincarnate]

I've no complaints about last nights score line, but I've always believed 99% of Man Ure fans have no link with Manc chester & have never lived there, and bless my soul large sections of the Man Ure faithful were chanting "Argentina, Argentina" as if to confirm my beliefs, that's a fcuking long way to come to watch a game, even further away than Surrey and Hampshire!!

[Jah Lush]

I was in the CPT for the Man Utd v Spurs match the other week Atila and the place was choca block full of plastic Mancs. The horror.... the horror.

[Sandperson]

***NEWS FLASH***

Not all United fans come from Manchester shocker! :))

[red devil]

You know your team's done well when opposing fans talk about...the fans.

99%?, crap at maths too?

At least we know L'Arse fans talk through their L'Arse, irrespective of where they come from.

L'Arse were shite by the way...

[Annasfield]

I'm really not trying to stir things up here, but I have always wondered if you're from Manchester red devil and if not why you support United? It is sincerely a genuine question. Those who have met me know I don't have a Scouse accent, so I'd be hypocritical if I were to say anything.

Didn't watch the game last night, but by all accounts United should have won by 2 or 3.

[Sandperson]

Damn Anna, I'd always imagined you having a broad Scouse accent like someone from Brookie. I am sad now. We should have got a couple more, might be our downfall.

[Jah Lush]

The Giggs "goal" should have been given. Berbatov was offside but not interfering with play.

[Sandperson]

And it was a corker.

[red devil]

Yes I am Anna, although having spent 15 years in the smoke people oop north think I talk cockney! I still say bath not barth though...;-)

I'm not bothered where fans come from, in fact since living in Ldn I now appreciate and respect the trouble, effort and expense some fans go to, the real plastics are the local fans who can't be bothered to jump on the bus/tube to support their team.

Isn't it nice that Sandy is back after his exertions?..

[Keef]

I chose a team because I liked their players, it honestly didn't occur to me that it wasn't where I'm from. It is good to have SP back, and don't worry SP, Anna can do a mean accent, and she is a suitably brassy northern bird! ;-)

[red devil]

Anna, you've just gone right up in my estimation...

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41361000/jpg/_41361464_betlynch203.jpg

[Sandperson]

Phew, so all my fantasies will not have gone to waste then...;-)

[Annasfield]

Merseyside, not Lancashire red devil and leopard print doesn't really suit me. ;-)

My Mum's a scouser and she has almost lost her accent but when she's home it's really noticeable. I know I've picked up bits from her which you wouldn't really notice down here, but when I'm in Liverpool I tend to slip in to it. Especially when singing on the Kop. Ha ha. :-S

[red devil]

Beggars can't be choosers...

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/08_01/ellison10508_468x829.jpg

[Atila Reincarnate]

red devil Wrote:

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> You know your team's done well when opposing fans

> talk about...the fans.

> 99%?, crap at maths too?

> At least we know L'Arse fans talk through their

> L'Arse, irrespective of where they come from.

> L'Arse were shite by the way...

Just like you were shite when we beat you 2 -1 out our place in November.

Just like ManUre fans talk ManUre irrespective or where they hail from. So explain the chants of "Argentina" oh enlightened one, I wasn't aware was now the home of the Argentine national team. Ronaldo did his usual spitting the dummy out routine last night, but that's the norm for him. And Rooney did his usual "calm down, calm down" routine.

[Sandperson]

I see the emergence of Atila Hyde is still on course. :))

[Atila Reincarnate]

So are any of you Man Ure fans going to explain the ridiculous chant or don't you know the answer??

[Sandperson]

The chant of Argentina originated when Gabby Heinze played for us and has now been taken on for the diamond Tevez.

United fans chant Argentina because most of them rate club over country and would rather their club did well than England*. So Argentina is chanted not only to support two of our best players but also to wind up England fans. Much like the Ronaldo chant "He winks to the left, he winks to the right, that boy Ronaldo made England look shite".

*This is not an opinion I share. I live for the day that England raise the World Cup. I would swap a Premiership title for it any day of the week.

[Atila Reincarnate]

That tells me all I need to know about ManUre and reaffirms everything I thought about their "fans", especially for forgiving Ronaldo for his disgraceful antics in getting Rooney (somebody that plays in the same team as him for fcuks sake)sent off.

[Sandperson]

I think you should check back a few pages on here Atila where there was a lengthy discussion about club v country. Apart from myself, as I made clear in my post, and Keef the majority of people who post regularly on this thread were of the same opinion, club before country. In fact I was quite shocked at the amount who said they's rather have club success than success for their national side.

As far as ronaldo goes, I got into a lot of trouble on here saying taht I thought he was an ungrateful little scrote for talking about wanting out last season. My opinons of him haven't changed and I believe he will leave at the end of this season but he is also a match winner, flawed, but a match winner none the less and I defy anyone on here to not want a player of his calibre in their team (cue lots of BS about how 'my team wouldn't put up with his shenanigans' and 'my team are above all that' blah, blah, blah.) Rooney and Ronaldo are good mates off the field, they have put the England sending off behind them and I'm afraid Ronaldo played 'the game' he knew how to pull Rooney's stings and Rooney was a fool for falling for it.

I'm afraid you've said very little about the actual game last night Atila. It seems to me that your side were outplayed, fair and square - no dodgy free kicks/penalties/sendings off - and that the only thing you've got to say is about the fans. The better side won and to be honest you weren't in i for most of the first half and you haven't been in the championship race for most of the season...in fact you are lucky that you've had a minor run of form and Villa have slipped up otherwise Arsenal (see how I resist caling your team by some childish name?) would be playing in the UEFA cup next season and who knows? I've just been re-reading about Leeds fall from grace.....:))

[Keef]

When I left Liverpool my accent was pretty strange, definitely a strong scouse twang. Would slip in to it very easily if I was up there, I still hear it in the odd word. Anna, when I net your mum I thought her accent was pretty strong.

[red devil]

Did someone let off a fart?...

[red devil]

...oops my mistake, it's Atila spouting shite again...now let me enlighten the cerebrally challenged amongst us, Utd fans chant Argentina to the Argentinian Carlos Tevez because he's from...yes that's right, Argentina!, just like the West Ham fans did, whisper it amongst you but some of those traitor Irons even wore Argie shirts, have they no shame?..

maybe the so called England fans would like to explain why Utd players, sometimes half the outfield team, were regularly booed by the london based England fans at the old Wembley, also singing 'stand up if you hate man u'?; in response to this Utd fans when in Ldn would chant 'Argentina' as a wind-up response, and this has now gained popularity in recent years because of the Argentinian players; it was only when the old Wembley closed and games went around the country that real fans, not Ldn plastics, got to see England play...