Padlocks On The Cherry Tree Pub

[Zak]

As I came home last night I noticed that the Cherry Tree on Grove Vale was closed and that there were padlocks on the doors.

Anyone know what's happening?

[Otta]

No, but hurrah!

[speedbird]

Apparently they moved out, lock stock and barrel on Tuesday. Walkabout move in.... So they said in the shops opposite.

[DulwichFox]

Zak Wrote:

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> As I came home last night I noticed that the

> Cherry Tree on Grove Vale was closed and that

> there were padlocks on the doors.

>

> Anyone know what's happening?

Now why didn't anyone think about that before while the owners were still inside..

No.. Probably better that they have gone..

Not too sure about Walkabout though.. ????

DulichFox.

[Otta]

I VERY much doubt Walkabout would be interested in a place like Dulwich. Could be wrong of course, but would be genuinely surprised.

Although I can imagine heading there after a Dulwich Hamlet match.

[DulwichFox]

There was discussion here on EDF December 2014 about Walkabout (The owners of Adventure Bar ??)

being interested in The Cherry Tree.

Foxy

[Otta]

I thought Adventure Bar was one of a small chain. Unless they've been bought out.

The Walkabouts I know are all central London, but The Vale is somewhere that could appeal to them, open kitchen, room for big screens for sport, and space for dancing.

I just can't imagine them attracting their usual target market in ED, and not sure people would travel to ED to use it.

But like I say, after a Hamlet match I'd defo go in there to watch the late kick off on a Saturday.

Awww, had some great times with Aussie mates in Walkabouts back when I was free of wife & kids and had a social life.

[BrandNewGuy]

Agreed. They're never going to get the footfall for a Walkabout. Come on, Wetherspoons, you know you want it...

[pipsky2008]

I think that building would make a great Library instead of the new proposed newlibrary being tucked away behind Morrisons.

[Andrew1011]

pipsky2008 Wrote:

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> I think that building would make a great Library

> instead of the new proposed newlibrary being

> tucked away behind Morrisons.

Except the new library on Railway Rise is costing Southwark virtually nothing, other than a peppercorn rent, furnishings and the usual revenue costs, due to a section 106 agreement. Whereas the Cherry Tree building would have to be purchased or leased in the first place, and at a no doubt prohibitive cost. Moving the current Grove Vale library to the new site will lead to a significant annual saving, of the kind which has enabled Southwark to keep its libraries open - and indeed build/open new ones - when other boroughs have been closing theirs.

[aquarius moon]

Library? Never. It's a pub! There are enough pubs closing down already.

Otta, you sound a bit sad lately. Cheer up. Keep smiling :)

[BrandNewGuy]

Andrew1011 Wrote:

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> pipsky2008 Wrote:

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> > I think that building would make a great

> Library

> > instead of the new proposed newlibrary being

> > tucked away behind Morrisons.

>

> Except the new library on Railway Rise is costing

> Southwark virtually nothing, other than a

> peppercorn rent, furnishings and the usual revenue

> costs, due to a section 106 agreement. Whereas

> the Cherry Tree building would have to be

> purchased or leased in the first place, and at a

> no doubt prohibitive cost. Moving the current

> Grove Vale library to the new site will lead to a

> significant annual saving, of the kind which has

> enabled Southwark to keep its libraries open - and

> indeed build/open new ones - when other boroughs

> have been closing theirs.

Well, given the lack of movement on that site and the probability that Morrisons won't open a store there, I'm not convinced that the new library will definitely go ahead. Cllr. Barber has been rather silent about it of late.

[Andrew1011]

BrandNewGuy wrote:

> Well, given the lack of movement on that site and

> the probability that Morrisons won't open a store

> there, I'm not convinced that the new library will

> definitely go ahead. Cllr. Barber has been rather

> silent about it of late.

The new library was agreed by the original developer under section 106 quite some time before before Morrisons got involved and will likely remain live if and when their involvement ends. Someone will want to open a store there.

Silent? As he thinks he was instrumental in the new library development, he's probably got a backup plan to get a carpet retailer owned Academy group to develop it as a primary school for South Bermondsey (only 6 minutes away by train).

[edhistory]

Andrew1011 Wrote:

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> The new library was agreed by the original

> developer under section 106

Where did you get your copy of the S106 requirement?

John K

[Jeremy]

Wetherspoons would be OK. If its a Walkabout I'll personally torch the place.

[Sue]

Hoping for a Wetherspoons, but I thought the previous thread on the subject said that the Cherry Tree owners had turned down an offer from Wetherspoons?

ETA: Thank goodness it's finally changing hands, though.

[MrBen]

Lots of half truths and rumour on the future owners....when someone with an inside take can confirm what's happening...let us know.

[MrBen]

...as I'm a hipster lite dad concerned about community assets with kids and need somewhere to have a monthly binge.

[Sue]

Was googling to try to find any info - didn't find what I was looking for, but did find this :))

Don't know if somebody put up the whole page, or if somebody hacked a page put up by the Cherry Tree, either way it made me laugh out loud ....

http://in-greatbritain.net/411992675526845/

ETA: If you can't be bothered to click on the link, part of it says:

"We hate all our customers and everyone who lives in East Dullwich. We know nothing about running bars, or about customer service"

[Gloves1980]

Great building and really convenient for an after work scoop.........

However, it always seemed, bar the lovely barmaid, that they were doing you a favor serving you or answering your questions.

The bitter was always well kept, and they showed football........

I never ate there, as it all looked deep fried.

[MissKing]

Never ever went in the Cherry Tree... EDT is my place of choice! why was it so bad?

[JohnL]

It's a lovely space - the issue was always the customer service apparently.

I remember a post on here slagging off all the other pubs and ending

"I went into the Cherry Tree (Vale) and it was just perfect".

Cue derision and mocking.

[Otta]

The owners, simple as that.

When it first became "The Vale" in the early 000's, it was the only late license in the area, and many a good night was had. But quite quickly the owner started looking at himself as some sort of "Guv'na", standing on the door in his long coat, flanked by bouncers, like some sort of latter day Kray (but he couldn't carry it off).

Soon fights were starting regularly and it occasionally got nasty.

Soon numbers dwindled and it was pretty empty.

Since then, over the years they have brought in various new managers, all of whom start so enthusiastically, engaging with people, trying to get interesting chefs and events on. But every single time they leave within a month or so, having been unable to work with the owners.

It's crying out to be successful in some form or other, but over the years they have doggedly refused to allow it.

Good riddance, I hope they have gotten out of the pub game, or some other pub somewhere is in for a rough ride.

[stingray]

Has been bought by these guys.

http://redcombpubs.co.uk/our-pubs/

[Sue]

Thanks stingray!