Just a wish...(there was a baby/pram/child free pub in ED)

[DulwichFox]

That's very good pickle.

I'm not talking about people like you am I ?

For fox sake

[Pickle]

You didn't answer as to whether you had children of your own. I would love to hear, if you did, how you entertained them day in day out.

How do you know that the parents you see having lunch with their kids in a pub haven't spent the rest of their week out and about doing activities you deem "suitable". Do you talk or engage with them at all? Find out about their lives, how they juggle work and kids?

I don't know why I'm bothering even wasting my time on this, I know better, but "for fox sake" take a look at your posts and realise just how ridiculous they are!

[????]

Don't hold your breath on 'foxy' seeing how ridiculous his posts are Pickle

[Sue]

I can't believe what I am reading here.

Sorry Fox but you have crossed a line.

My grandchildren have just gone home after spending a week with me and my OH in ED.

We had a great time out and about - planetarium, museums, feeding the ducks/pigeons in the park (not bread), healthy packed lunches every day etc etc and SHOCK HORROR we went to the pub and we DIDN'T EVEN EAT THERE (apart from crisps) WE JUST HAD DRINKS. And my OH and I had ALCOHOLIC DRINKS whilst sitting with the children.

On the Palmerston roof garden which they greatly enjoyed.

Do you actually know anything about children? Apart of course from your own childhood. Because if not, I suggest you stop making a fool of yourself on this thread and just STFU.

You really don't do yourself any favours when you pontificate about things you appear to know absolutely nothing about.

[Jah Lush]

I'd wager Dulwich Fox never had kids. Odds-on cert I reckon.

[DulwichFox]

When I was married.. my wife miscarried and we lost the baby..

we later split.. and I have not been in a serious relationship since..

... So you can all STFU.

P.S. Suspect Seabag and ???? will find that Hilarious.. (losing a baby that is)

DF

[Pickle]

That's sad, granted, but once and for all proves that you have no experience of raising children. So really, it's you that should "STFU" as you so eloquently put it.

[DulwichFox]

Pickle Wrote:

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> That's sad, granted, but once and for all proves

> that you have no experience of raising children.

> So really, it's you that should "STFU" as you so

> eloquently put it.

My wife was a nanny and we had one of the children living with us because his parents were City flyers

who spent most of their time in wine bars neglecting their child.

In more recent times I've witnessed neglect by parents who allow their little darlings to run riot

and are the first to want to sue the pub if they fall over and 'Bump' their little heads.

Sue.. Yes there are responsible guardians .. Usually Grandparents.. as in your case..

Having no experience of raising children has nothing to do with anything. Its like saying if you have never

been to war you cannot comment on it being bad..

One can generally tell good parents by the way they interact with their children and talk to them.

DF

DF

[Jah Lush]

What does STFU mean?

[Jeremy]

Of course spending all day in the pub getting drunk with bored kids in tow would be terrible parenting. But I don't know anyone who does that - and if I did, I'd probably try to un-know them pretty sharpish.

Sunday lunch in the pub with the family should be a fun occasion for everyone. Go to the park first and let them burn off the surplus energy and work up an appetite. Don't drink too much. Bring some toys/colouring/books/etc so they don't get bored. If they start crying/screaming take them outside. Why on earth would anyone have a problem with that?

If you want to get pissed and shout and swear with your boozy pals, pick an appropriate pub (or area of the pub), or just wait until the evening. And stop moaning.

[DulwichFox]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> If you want to get pissed and shout and swear with

> your boozy pals, pick an appropriate pub (or area

> of the pub), or just wait until the evening. And

> stop moaning.

I don't get pissed, I don't have boozy mates, I drink at the EDT which does not have a problem with kids.

(not that they are always a Problem) and I do not drink during the day.. (well rarely) I do drink in the evening.

and.. I'm not moaning.. You will soon know when I am moaning.. :)

Foxy

[Jeremy]

Sorry Fox - final paragraph wasn't really aimed at you, more generally the type of people moaning about kids in pubs.

First 2 paragraphs were in response to you, though.

[DulwichFox]

Fair enough.. Jeremy..

I'm not against kids in pubs. Many of my friends had kids with them a few years back..

and some of them may well of been guilty of what has been discussed here.

My parents were not big drinkers but we did go to the pub oddly enough in the evening (Sat)

Kids were not allowed inside and there was no food. We used to go to The White Horse (small garden)

As a big treat the Fox on the Hill but mainly The Globe (now flats) Peckham Hill street.

There was a cockle stall but as a real treat I got 2 Shillings (10p) and had Rock and Chips sit down

at Bells fish shop. Long gone.. My first experience of dining out. and gaining my independence.

Foxy

[Sue]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> What does STFU mean?

Google it :)

[DulwichFox]

I did...

Star Trek Federation University

Scrawny Two-Faced Underling

Samurai Training Finished Unsuccessfully

Show Them Fury Unleashed

Save the Flying Unicorns

Southern Tenant Farmers' Union

Short-Term Follow-Up (pharmaceutical study)

Say, Thanks for Understanding

See That Foxy Understands.

Foxy

[Sue]

I think you find that what I was communicating comes up as the top acronym in the Urban Dictionary when you google STFU :))

But I do like some of your other options, Fox, I'll bear them in mind for the future :)

[Jah Lush]

Shut The Fox Up?

[Sue]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Shut The Fox Up?

Ha ha ha :))

[Administrator]

Can we move this thread back on topic... "Just a wish...(there was a baby/pram/child free pub in ED)" rather focussing on yourself/ a particular individual.

[Otta]

Took my kids to the pub yesterday to meet a friend for lunch. Would much rather they hadn't been there, but it was that or not meet friend (who I'd not seen in an age). As it was we sat in the garden and if they got too close to someone else's table I called them back to me.

So if anyone had tutted / complained I'd have told them to jog on as I was being considerate.

Had I studiously ignored what they were doing and let them run around other people's tables, then people would have had every right to consider me a selfish cunt.

[Otta]

Going back to Jan's daily mash post, I love the bit

?It?s like I?ve been very, very slowly barred from my pub by the process of making it even more unbearable than spending the night at home.?

And do sometimes feel that way, but that has little to do with kids and more to do with prices and what the majority like doing (eating rather than boozing).

[peckham_ryu]

Just caught the tail end of an item on this subject on Radio 4's 'PM'. The comment about having to put up with children "running amuck; sorry - expressing themselves," could have been straight from here :)

Item probably started around 1750 if you're thinking of listening on iPlayer Radio.

[ruffers]

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/sep/03/pub-goers-children-badly-behaved-complaint-good-pub-guide

Guardian piece about the presumably the same report.

[fazer71]

The ambience of the British boozer is being ruined by screaming babies and children whose parents allow them to run riot, according to disgruntled licensees and customers.

On the money .!

And I hate the guardian.

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